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General Forums => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: morerpmfred on April 29, 2011, 07:08:43 PM
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This in the most important thing you can do in a free democracy.
For me I have not missed an election since I turned eighteen. However I will not be voting for jack the commy or a non Canadian whose last name translated in English means Iamathief. Or any leader who votes to break up Canada. Okay I,m a closet Quebec sepertist. ;D. Just my opinions on the leaders.
So Let's Get Out And Vote Monday
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so you are voting Green Andy?? ;)
i agree though; please get out and vote.
i'll be running a polling station in Bridlewood, bring me a coffee if your voting at JJ oBrian!
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Do it! Just dew it...
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However you affiliation may fall get out and vote.
Failure to do so decries the foundation of democracy.
We need only look overseas to see that the people of Egypt, Yemen, Syria, and Libya are dying for what we take for granted for everyday.
If you do not participate in making policy (you do this by voting) then policy is made for you. (sounds more like a dictatorship).
We have had a dysfunctional government for far too long in Canada as a result of Minority Government. It is about time that changed.
Just my slightly biased ::) opinion.
I like Andy haven't missed an election since I was allowed to vote, I don't consider it a right or a privilege I think it is a responsibility.
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awe gee lets see.
[ ] turd #2
[ ] turd #3
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awe gee lets see.
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Yup...they are all turds. It's the reality of hyper-partisan North American politics. All politicians have on REAL goal...get elected and stay elected. They will pork barrel, mud-sling, slither, wiggle, and whine in order to get into power and stay there.
All you can do is choose the party who's policies are least objectionable.
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Yup...they are all turds. It's the reality of hyper-partisan North American politics. All politicians have on REAL goal...get elected and stay elected. They will pork barrel, mud-sling, slither, wiggle, and whine in order to get into power and stay there.
All you can do is choose the party who's policies are least objectionable.
or move to <insert middle eastern regime here>.
you can complain all you want there too......... you might get shot though.
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if we could vote for arny or trump, hell then politics could be more fun. instead look what we get to vote.
i'll vote for the buffalo girl, at least she eats bacon.
but that's a thought for tomorrow. now, i am going to watch Nude Nuns with Big Guns (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1352388/). nite all.
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And trump plays his card and asks for Obama birthy cert and gets it. :o In yesterdays news. The commie was caught in an ill repute massage parlor with his cloths off. How do you spin that? This is mud slinging .My candidate is not sepertist orange , commie red , other libby commie red or tree hugger green. Sorry no timmies Johnny , will be voting up here in the cold north part of the city.
my candidate believes good gun control means good finger , hand coordination and hitting your target.
Lets get out and vote.
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What i know.
Even with a minority government, Harper has kept interest rates low.
He has kept our dollar at or better than US.
We are leaps and bounds ahead in the recession versus USA.
Harper is the first RESPECTED leader by other nations in a LONG time.
Yes politics will always have corruption, but Harpers corrupt government has served Canada well.
i can not imagine NDP or Liberal running (ruining)this country.
The Green Party will be wasted votes unfortunately and would be better served by voting PC to a majority.
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Agreed Tom.
Would also be nice to see a majority so our government could govern rather than tip toe through and around the issues that matter.
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And remember, by law you get time to go vote. I've heard 1, 2 and 3 hours so I'm not sure on the exact number.
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It is 3 hours if you dont have the time off to vote already!
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The Green Party will be wasted votes unfortunately and would be better served by voting PC to a majority.
Disagree.
The unregulated banking system in the US caused the recession mostly due to the derivatives market and the sublending practices in the mortgage sector.
The current CDN minority government is a coalition government formed by the Canadian Alliance Party and the Progressive Conservative Party which joined in 2003 as the Canadian Conservative -Alliance Party, which has now turned back to just the Conservative Party.
I don't want to go on a rant about what the Conservative government's reign has been responsible for, but look at the G20, almost $1B in tax dollars spent for 4 days. Not a single Canadian was consulted about our involvement in the signing of the North American Union (which no one fully understands what the mandate is), or dropping 66 government funded programs in 2006 to save $1B so they could keep one of the only electoral promises they made by cutting the GST by 2%.
If our provincial Conservative government tells us anything, we cannot trust them, or any other politician for that matter. Why do we have the highest provincial
GDP's of all the provinces, yet our health care system is one of the worst in Canada? Oh, and what about our buddy, Ted Morton, I.G. anyone????
The Green Party has one really good platform I agree which applies to voter reform. They want to abolish the federal funding of political parties. There is also a request to change to voting system so that every single vote is counted towards the federal party they vote for, instead of going towards the MP in their individual riding. This I feel would be a huge change to our democratic system, for the better, and would reduce voter apathy and get more people out to the poles.
In fact, the Green Party rated the best amongst any party on reform proposals based on a research pole done by a consumer group Democracy Watch Canada. Read:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/04/28/cv-election-democracy-grades.html
People are dying in other countries trying to overthrow dictatorships, just for the hope that they one day may be able to live in a society where they might be able to chose their governments.
So, in my limited view of politics, the only wasted vote is the one you don't make.
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What i mean by wasted is that a vote for Green may enable the Libs or NDP to close the gap on PC. Green party will have zero effect on politics in Canada. Unless they eventually become powerful (were they even at the leaders debate?), than a vote for them is wasted.
Not in the literal sense but in the bigger picture. Our country has never been more stable than it has been under Harper. All the crap aside, he gets my vote.
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Personally I do not believe every one should be entitled to vote.
I cant imagine many companies would survive if the employees got together and voted on who their bosses were going to be.
I also believe that the current leaders purposely do not provide more than basic points to focus on to make them selves more popular and do not provide voters the "otherside" of their plans. I could build a campaign on dropping the GST, I would be popular for this, what I wouldn't tell the people is that the money is coming from elsewhere.
If it was a system with a minimum education and/or income level that did the voting I would support that as I believe the vast majority of people who vote do not clearly understand what the issues are, It also needs to be a system that holds the elected leader accountable to deliver on his mandates on time and allowed him to only stay in office if his performance warrants it.
Will I vote in this election...... I don't know.
Never liked the Liberals and the fact that they couldn't stick to a plan to bring down a minority government or that they spend more time talking about spending issues and corruption while ignoring their past makes me wonder.
Layton, Personally I like him and some of his Ideas I agree with, I just can't imagine it would work.
Harper, I actually think he has done ok coming out of the whole 9/11 changes to the world, a recession and only having a minority government would be a challenge for any party, I just don't like the lack of intelligent information from his party.
I would actually hope for a slim liberal minority win and have the Cons and NDP form government, Harper leading with Layton in his ear.
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Actually the whole system is whacked, for instance, last election the Bloc Quebecois got 1.3 million votes, the Green Party got 947,000. Bloc Quebecois has 44 MP's, the Green Party...1. How is this DEMOCRATIC? ???
In 2009, Albertans paid $40.46 billion in income, corporate and other taxes to the federal government and received back just $19.35 billion in services and goods from the feds. That means the rest of Canada got $21.1 billion from Albertans or $5,742 for each and every Alberta man, woman and child. In 2007 (the last year national figures are available), Alberta sent a net contribution of $19.49 billion to the ROC or $5,553 per Albertan -- more than three times what every Ontarian contributes at $1,757. Quebecers, on the other hand, each received $627 net or a total of $8 billion, money which was designed to help "equalize" social programs
across the country. Except, that's not what is happening. Quebec has more generous social programs like (nearly) free university tuition (paid for
mostly by Albertans) and cheap provincial day care (paid for mostly by Albertans). >:(
I wouold sure like to see them make it a level playing field, ie: 1 person, 1 vote.
Yes I voted today, as everyone should, but the system really needs to change. :)