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Title: The Comanche Travois
Post by: Waytec on August 01, 2011, 08:14:49 PM
Wikipedia defines it as a is a frame used by indigenous peoples of North America, to drag loads over land.
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: Immortal on August 01, 2011, 09:49:05 PM
Or Kevin's trailer. Oh wait!!  That was a Trevois.
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: TL-Iguana on August 03, 2011, 04:42:59 PM
Or Kevin's trailer. Oh wait!!  That was a Trevois.

Yep. Saw it with my own 2 eyes. Definately a Trevois. Maybe kev would be so kind as to send us each a picture? I know he has some ;) I was too busy helping to lashing it with Trev to get any photos...
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: Waytec on February 20, 2012, 10:59:11 PM
So after a lot of delays I have collected some parts and received material.
I am using 2x3x.125
springs from a YJ.
Will order a axel  2000lbs once everything is together.
rims and rubber off my now gone MJ

I started building a frame but after a lot of looking and thinking I did not like the location of the cross beams so I ground all the tack's off and moved them.

What I got so far for the frame. once I have the axel I will locate the rear cross support and the middle one so they will be in the right place for the shocks.
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/Feb20th2012060.jpg)

I had to make plats to cover factory holes in the MJ box supports. I drilled and put tread inserts in to bold the box to the frame I want to be able to separate the two for future modifications and repairs
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/Feb20th2012061.jpg)

The inserts and tool to install them. they simple to use.
Drill the hole to the size according to the chart, drop the insert in, you may have to tap with tap hammer. using a wrench you hold one part of the tool and using a socket with the allen key in the kit screw it down till it is tight. the directions give to a torque spec. the insert crushes pinching itself to the material you drilled into. 
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/Feb20th2012062.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/Feb20th2012063.jpg)
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: JENSSEN on February 20, 2012, 11:28:52 PM
Moar info!!
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: Knox on February 21, 2012, 07:04:21 AM
Or Kevin's trailer. Oh wait!!  That was a Trevois.

Ever notice his signature?
"04 TJ - 37" Pitbulls on 17" walker evans (35's on DC1's for the road), 6" RCD lift, custom bumpers, no carpets and other stuff

89 MJ -  (under construction) 33's on steelies, 93 axles, 95 engine

Custom built off-road trailer "

pay attention to the size of tires listed for the trailer...  ;D

Looking good, so what were the nutserts being used for? To hold the bed to the frame?
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: Waytec on February 21, 2012, 11:53:58 AM
Looking good, so what were the nutserts being used for? To hold the bed to the frame?

yea I want to be able to take the box off. The box needs some TLC, so just removing it will make it so much easier.
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: Waytec on April 05, 2012, 12:22:20 PM
I have been finding some time here and there to work on my tralor.
I have the springs mounted,
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/April042012031.jpg)
The rest of the cross braces welded in.
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/April042012029.jpg)
I have the centers cut out for the 2x2 for the tong
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/April042012030.jpg)
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: Elsifer on April 12, 2012, 11:56:24 AM
I thought our glorious bureaucrats did away with home-built trailers??

What are the road rules for this? Unless it's OHV only?
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: specialk on April 12, 2012, 01:31:47 PM
I believe he just has to get it inspected and get a VIN for it.
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: LukeDuke on April 12, 2012, 02:27:59 PM
Yep, coast ya round 150 bucks and they give you a 17 didgit serial number and away you go. Pretty painless actually.

Looking good Arron. You gonna put a toper on it so i doubles as a camper?
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: cLAY on April 12, 2012, 05:09:02 PM
As long as its under 3500# gvw it's pretty easy as stated above.

Over 3500# requires an inspection. Funny thing is its not a safety inspection. They inspect it to make sure it's not made of stolen parts. The other thing that ticks me off about is that it's not the gov't doing the inspection but some sort of insurance board.

There are ways around it however......
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: Waytec on April 13, 2012, 09:10:32 AM
I am just going to get it inspected. I have heard of guys gust coming up with a 17 digit number, stamping it and taking it in, but then I have heard of guys doing that and then getting a run around on documentation.
I have a toper for it but I don't know if I am going to use it or not. I might put a rollup tunnel cover on it as well. I am not going to sleep in it. I have a really good tent for that. one day it will have a RTT on it but that is down the road. this is to more to replace the lack of truck and allow me to carry all the camping gear without taking up all space in the XJ.
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: LukeDuke on April 13, 2012, 10:40:00 AM
I am just going to get it inspected. I have heard of guys gust coming up with a 17 digit number, stamping it and taking it in, but then I have heard of guys doing that and then getting a run around on documentation.
I have a toper for it but I don't know if I am going to use it or not. I might put a rollup tunnel cover on it as well. I am not going to sleep in it. I have a really good tent for that. one day it will have a RTT on it but that is down the road. this is to more to replace the lack of truck and allow me to carry all the camping gear without taking up all space in the XJ.


When they do the inspection they will bring a 17 SN plate and rivit it to your trailer. Cant get resistration or insurance with out it now. Had to do the M101 to get it resistered.
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: Waytec on April 13, 2012, 02:22:06 PM
From when you called them and they showed up how long did it take? and what did they charge?
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: LukeDuke on April 13, 2012, 04:05:20 PM
It took about a week from the time i called till it was done.  Around $150 if i remember. Keep in mid i did have a bill of sale for my M101. So if you have one for the MJ the box came off of it might make it easyer. I'm gonna be going through the same thing for my S10 box camper here in a bit.
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: Waytec on April 24, 2012, 07:04:04 PM
I have got a lot of work done over the last couple weeks.
I got the rest of the frame welded up. The axel came in and installed.
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/April2420012020.jpg)

I used a piece of conduit to run the weir from front to the rear. I put a bumper on to make it all look right. 
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/April2420012019.jpg)

Once I got the rubber on in I rolled it out to see what stands it has against the XJ. it is sitting a lot taller than I thought.
 (http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/April2420012017.jpg)

I POR15ed the frame. this stuff looks like powder coating once dried.
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/April2420012026.jpg)

I handle so I can pick it up and move it around. I set it a little further back then you would think but now the handle clears the spare
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/April2420012023.jpg)

I did find a tall jack. I am still going to build a foot for it so I don't have to crank so far up and down.
 (http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/April2420012022.jpg)

I used a receiver hitch so I can use a ball or a max access hitch.
  (http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/April2420012025.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/April2420012024.jpg)

Once the POR 15 was dry I got the box on and see how it looks altogether.
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/April2420012029.jpg)
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn279/waytec/Trailer/April2420012030.jpg)

I still have to get the spare mount done, the spot where the jerry cans are going to mount and wire the lights.  I am almost there then the inspection and plate.
Title: Re: The Comanche Travois
Post by: TL-Iguana on April 24, 2012, 10:54:40 PM
When wiring the lights, make sure they are first plugged in.

Words of wisdom ;)