Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: morerpmfred on October 17, 2011, 09:03:54 AM
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Time for some new shoes on the xj. Currently have procomp mt that are heavily siped so that they work esp on ice and snow. They also have excessive side wall damage with three slow leaks on side walls due to driver error. ::)
Lots of pros and cons with each tire , have included the federals cause they are increadable in the mud but do not know how they work on ice and snow. After a few miles on the new tires will probably sipe them anyways. Need thoughts and opinions.
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toyo's or you can be my Ginnie pig on the federal couregia mt ;D
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Toyo's seem to be on the top of the list of everyone lately. I am going to get some new shoes for the Durango soon and I am on the fence between the Toyo's and the Duratracs. I am really leaning towards the Duratracs as Rob has put 60k on the current set and they have more than 50% remaining. They are also amazing on the ice and snow as well as the mud. Just my two cents!
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I love my MTR-K's, I'd pit them against the Toyos any day. Other than that Baja MTZ and uhh yeah..... Toyo are a great tires. Also the Cooper STT seems to do really well
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Toyos are heavy as lead-studded goose snot...but they work. On road, off road, whatever. My Toyo 35X12.5 take less weight to balance properly than my BFG 32X10.5's took. They're also uber tough if you get the e-rated ones.
I can't tell you how they handle winter roads, but I'd bet that if you siped them (or had them siped) they'd hold their own next to any MT. They won't deal with ice and snow as well as Duratracs, but they are far better than the Duratracs in the mud. I own one set of each, and I'd say that the Duratracs can only do about 80% of what the Toyos can do in mud.
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Just buy my mtz's. They work well all around. There hasnt been many places I can't go
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Nitto trail grappler MT
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Read that nitto was going to make that size but nothing listed on there web site yet. They would be a contender if they made the right size. Tire weight is a consideration but then i got side wall leaks on my existing light weight mud tires lol
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toyo's or you can be my Ginnie pig on the federal couregia mt ;D
Cut me a deal on some 35's and I could pig them for you. ;)
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I really like my BFG KM2's, they throw mud, good on dirt, excellent in deep snow, good on the roads. And they cost way less than Toyo's.
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I ran the couragia this year.... They are great off road, but daily driving is brutal, they won't last long at all on the street. But the price is right for their durability.
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How are the courgia in snow and on ice?
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Read that nitto was going to make that size but nothing listed on there web site yet. They would be a contender if they made the right size. Tire weight is a consideration but then i got side wall leaks on my existing light weight mud tires lol
KalTire has 33x12.5x15 listed on their site but I was talking with my buddy and they don't have anything in the warehouse yet. Must be brand new or something.
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Read that nitto was going to make that size but nothing listed on there web site yet. They would be a contender if they made the right size. Tire weight is a consideration but then i got side wall leaks on my existing light weight mud tires lol
That's too bad about sizing. i have them on my dodge and they are sooooo good on hardpack/ice. i imagine they would rawk offrroad and the sidewalls are da bomb.
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I haven't had any issues with them on snow and ice, in fact they run very well with snow. For a mud terrain, they have plenty of siping, which really helps for the ice.
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Time for some new shoes on the xj. Currently have procomp mt that are heavily siped so that they work esp on ice and snow. They also have excessive side wall damage with three slow leaks on side walls due to driver error. ::)
Lots of pros and cons with each tire , have included the federals cause they are increadable in the mud but do not know how they work on ice and snow. After a few miles on the new tires will probably sipe them anyways. Need thoughts and opinions.
You need to be honest with yourself and your needs Andy.
You mention ice and snow driving a lot so I'm going to assume that you will be owning only one set of tires. The tires you have in your poll will be so-so for year-round driving conditions. I'm going to have to say Goodyear Duratracs on this one for an all around tire my friend . It would be nice to have a set of red label/comp tires but why? Do you spend the majority of your time in the XJ off road? I love my Toyos( I drank the Kool Aid), but I find them to be a tad squirrelly in winter in 2wd, so I own a set of dedicated winter tires as well . If I had only one choice for a set of tires year-round it would be the Duratracs. Not good enough in the mud you say? Air that crap down to low single digits and you would be able to hang with my Toyos .
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I moved all the fun, supportive, and "not so relevant" comments to their own thread over in chit-chat.
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All I can say is I love my duratracs. What they are like off road I can't tell you yet as my jeep is stuck in2wd until I can afford to regear the front. But on street they are suuuper quiet. Really weired as they are the most aggressive all terrain iv ever seen
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All I can say is I love my duratracs. What they are like off road I can't tell you yet as my jeep is stuck in2wd until I can afford to regear the front. But on street they are suuuper quiet. Really weired as they are the most aggressive all terrain iv ever seen
For a tire that's not truly an MT, I think you'll be pretty happy with them. I wheeled some mixed mud/snow with mine last fall, and while they can't keep up with a "real" MT, they work pretty well.
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Thank you for all of your advice. Did not include the duratracs for a couple of reasons in the poll quistion. Already have side wall problems with what I currently have and the duratracs have good traction cause they flex , cause they have a very thin sidewall. I do agree they work very well. Have blown out sidewalls on gravel roads on the past.
For the type a driving I do a lot of back country gravel roads all across Alberta under a lot of different weather conditions eg this year. Badland coulees in eastern alberta , rock trails down south, muskeg munching in northern eastern alberta, all the regular club trails around here , entire forestry trunk road from coleman to benzantin corner by Gp. and a little bit of daily driving. Please keep the opinions coming.
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If sidewall durability is a big issue, then I'd say that the answer is to sipe a set of E range Toyo's...or look at a set of Toyo M-55's. The M-55's are a seriously ugly tire, but they work like a champ for crappy oilpatch driving, and they're seriously tough. Not an MT....but good tires.
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So what did you end up deciding on Andy? I got a great deal on some Toyo's from Chanda yesterday and I'm very happy with them. I saw what looks to be your spare there and just wondered
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Have not bought any yet. That tire was just the valve stem leaking. Now down to one tire that has a non repairable side wall leak and the other had excessive mud inside the tire, removed mud but now thumps really bad on the highway. Hmm maybe mtrs. Still deciding.
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I know chiming in late here but since it is the tire thread. I will be running two sets of tires road I am fine with what is best for pure wheeling now. I had a set of old firestones I used only for oh wheeling on last rig actually, used them on the last two rigs I had built sadly they were discontinued long ago they resembled tractor tires basically and were bias if that tells you how old they were. Any way enough rambling which ones would you guys suggest now I am only planning on running 33s but thinking wider then 12.5s?
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Those firestone at/x ? where the ultimate mud tire. Way better then boggers ever could be in extreme mud and muskeg. I think another company bought the molds ans makes them. Stag tire ?
Job status changed here so have not had time to get new tires yet. Leaning towards the mtr kevlar koolaid brand.
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Time for some new shoes on the xj. Currently have procomp mt that are heavily siped so that they work esp on ice and snow. They also have excessive side wall damage with three slow leaks on side walls due to driver error. ::)
Lots of pros and cons with each tire , have included the federals cause they are increadable in the mud but do not know how they work on ice and snow. After a few miles on the new tires will probably sipe them anyways. Need thoughts and opinions.
adventuro m/t's there dirt cheep and work amazing!
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adventuro m/t's there dirt cheep and work amazing!
what is your definition of dirt cheap? i priced them at Fountain Tire and they came to more than Kevlars at Canadian Tire............
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900 bucks will get you 5 MTZ at 70% on rims
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Hmmm will have to look around I thought those old atx were gone but if someone still making them yeah they blow through mud like nothing else I have tried. But I am all ears on what you guys think is best pure mud tire?
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Hmmm will have to look around I thought those old atx were gone but if someone still making them yeah they blow through mud like nothing else I have tried. But I am all ears on what you guys think is best pure mud tire?
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