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4x4 Related Groups => General Talk => Topic started by: dunl on April 08, 2012, 11:37:33 AM

Title: window tint - not what you think
Post by: dunl on April 08, 2012, 11:37:33 AM
Okay, we all SHOULD know that by law we are only required to have a rear view mirror...but did you know that if you are like me, and have your back window tinted, that if the doors are off (i.e. no mirros) you're not legal?

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(2) A person shall not install, replace or cover the rear window glazing in a motor vehicle with a transparent, translucent or opaque material unless the motor vehicle has outside rear view mirrors on both the left and right that comply with section 72(2).

Now, chances of you driving around with your hardtop on and no doors are slim, but I just thought it was kind of interesting.
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: IgniteTJ on April 08, 2012, 11:48:46 AM
I thought by law you only had to have a drivers side mirror in Canada?
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: w squared on April 08, 2012, 12:12:09 PM
I thought by law you only had to have a drivers side mirror in Canada?

Most of the laws governing what is and is not legal on the highway are provincial, not federal.
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: WhiteOut on April 08, 2012, 12:29:58 PM
Tint laws are the kind of laws that you get ticket for when you lip off to the cop or drive like a tool. Chances of getting pulled over for a factory tinted rear hardtop and no side mirrors are pretty much nonexistent.

I'm doing 35% on the driver and passenger windows and don't really have any concerns over getting stopped.
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: dunl on April 08, 2012, 08:14:54 PM
Tint laws are the kind of laws that you get ticket for when you lip off to the cop or drive like a tool. Chances of getting pulled over for a factory tinted rear hardtop and no side mirrors are pretty much nonexistent.

I'm doing 35% on the driver and passenger windows and don't really have any concerns over getting stopped.

Not everyone lives in Calgary, though.
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: Moezer on April 10, 2012, 10:45:04 PM
man i got a tinting ticket pulling in to a parking lot and to make it even worse it was a high way cop in the city not even calgary police and i drive by 5  cp cops and they didnt say anything when i drove beside the high way cop i pulled in to the parking lot and he put his lights on lol
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: Vinman on April 11, 2012, 06:30:34 AM
Okay, we all SHOULD know that by law we are only required to have a rear view mirror...but did you know that if you are like me, and have your back window tinted, that if the doors are off (i.e. no mirros) you're not legal?

Now, chances of you driving around with your hardtop on and no doors are slim, but I just thought it was kind of interesting.
A person shall not install, replace or cover the rear window glazing in a motor vehicle with a transparent, translucent or opaque material unless the motor vehicle has outside rear view mirrors on both the left and right that comply with section 72(2).

Read that carefully, If YOU install, replace or cover the rear window glazing...

If it came fom the factory with tinted rear windows, you should be ok without side view mirrors.

Vince
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: big black dodge on April 11, 2012, 06:42:55 AM
I had to peel the tint on my front windows when stopped for groceries in Provost.  RCMP told me that any window with aftermaket film was illegal because the safety glass will be held together by the film in an accident. 
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: Vinman on April 11, 2012, 07:02:56 AM
I had to peel the tint on my front windows when stopped for groceries in Provost.  RCMP told me that any window with aftermaket film was illegal because the safety glass will be held together by the film in an accident. 

Is that the official RCMP opinion or the opinion of a guy wearing an RCMP uniform? Sounds like the latter to me.

Vince
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: hornblower on April 11, 2012, 07:29:49 AM
I had to peel the tint on my front windows when stopped for groceries in Provost.  RCMP told me that any window with aftermaket film was illegal because the safety glass will be held together by the film in an accident. 

I would love to see the piece of 3M that is going to hold a piece of safety glass together. ::)
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: jandh on April 11, 2012, 08:00:11 AM
I have fought this one many times.  If it is factory they can not make you remove it or ticket you, just fight it in court if the cop is being a douche.  Also I have gotten away with it 3 times because the cop said it is a safety hazard because the glass will not break as intended, my response, is my best friend owns a glass company and high standard safety glass used in Volvo and audi come with a clear layer made form the same material as tint and is used so that when the glass shatters it stays in tact and my friend would love to demonstrate the proof.  Although I can say that that answer has landed me a E-brake ticket when he asked if it worked .  :-[
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: xjpete on April 14, 2012, 10:25:39 PM
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/Content/docType41/Production/amltmanualdec2009.pdf .  You may find some answers here .
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: jandh on April 14, 2012, 10:56:03 PM
Page 45 of that document.

The push for window tint bylaws started with the opening comment of:

“Every time a cop approaches a car with blacked-out windows, he is doing something no cop should have to do: walk blindly into a potentially life-threatening situation,”

After backlash by people saying, you are not allowing us to have tinted windows because we are all potential criminals made them change their tune to "it's less safe"      irritating BS.

stop pulling us over for no mudflaps and no one gets hurt hahaha :D

Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: heep-a-lop on April 15, 2012, 08:29:48 AM
that's why i wish i lived in Arizona.... they have a factory option available on Nissan's and probally other companies "Arizona treatment"...  dipped not film tinted windows ... they aren't illegal they came from the factory like that
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: dunl on April 15, 2012, 11:51:55 AM
Someone would make a killing up here in Alberta with a process like that.
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: mike s on April 16, 2012, 09:25:47 AM
After many attempts to navigate a tricky section backwards at night, I decided window tint isn't really that "Cool" so peeled off the stuff a previous owner had put on. Sunglasses are cheap and a cop won't hassle you for wearing them.

The window tint issue seems like an argument for the sake of an argument
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: Dingleberry on April 16, 2012, 04:55:37 PM
Window tint has its uses:

Prevents UV damage to expensive leather seats,
Prevents would-be thieves from seeing what you have available to steal inside your vehicle,
Prevents people from seeing you getting some nooky in the back seat.

Just to name a few ;)
Title: Re: Re: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: binare on April 16, 2012, 05:16:26 PM
Window tint has its uses:

Prevents UV damage to expensive leather seats,
Prevents would-be thieves from seeing what you have available to steal inside your vehicle,
Prevents people from seeing you getting some nooky in the back seat.

Just to name a few ;)

Leather seats are for poofsters... Dont stain as easy.

I dont keep stuff I shouldnt in the Jeep.

As long as ya keep both hands visible, I couldnt care less who sees what and where ;-)

Tint on a 4x4 screams mall crawler. Period. My factory tinted rears irritate me at night on the trails... Otherwise, they keep the wee one in the back cool on the hot days, only use I can find and a HUGE one.
Title: Re: window tint - not what you think
Post by: RustJ5 on April 16, 2012, 06:50:18 PM
http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/Content/docType41/Production/amltmanualdec2009.pdf (http://www.transportation.alberta.ca/Content/docType41/Production/amltmanualdec2009.pdf)

I guess wheel spacers are out:  Section 9.5c  Any non OEM wheel spacer is installed between wheel and wheel mounting surface is grounds for failure.  Hmmm.