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Title: We have a situation ! please read !
Post by: Sahara11 on June 26, 2012, 06:05:22 PM
There is a wrangler stuck down waiparous right now these young guys have no winch its pouring out there. Anybody with a winch can help them ??? iam ready to go back there to help as well!!  its getting late ...

i tried to pull them out but my jeep is stock and with that kind of rain ... doesnt work well that all.

Any good soul around ?
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Post by: morerpmfred on June 26, 2012, 06:22:35 PM
Are they in the jeep and what is there location ?


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Post by: Sahara11 on June 26, 2012, 06:28:51 PM
I couldnt tell you the extact location cause Im not to familer with the area but its about 15 mintues from the main road and there camping near the jeep. Would you like to meet up tonight so we can help them out I can be in cochrane in 30 minutes
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Post by: jeepgrl on June 26, 2012, 06:55:40 PM
We have a winch and recovery gear and can lend a hand too... let me know.  We can be out there within the hour.
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Post by: Sahara11 on June 26, 2012, 07:00:15 PM
Ok thanks can we meet in cochrane at the huskey gas station ? Well be there in forty minute or so
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Post by: hornblower on June 26, 2012, 07:46:05 PM
Shitty deal. If i didn't blow out my windows out there this weekend and the heep wasn't in the shop i would go help.

Where did they go 15 minutes off the main road that they got stuck?
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Post by: Sahara11 on June 26, 2012, 08:06:27 PM
Ok so we are at the husky !  And they are stuck in the begening of that for trail past the maps
I can't tell you the trail number ...
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Post by: Sahara11 on June 27, 2012, 12:02:05 AM
ok so the jeep still down there ... iam gonna have to work tomorrow i dont know what they gonna do ...
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Post by: WhiteOut on June 27, 2012, 12:13:12 AM
What trail are they on?

Badly stuck? Broken?
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Post by: Drambuie89 on June 27, 2012, 12:52:10 AM
I can head out there first light just need to know where...

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Post by: Sahara11 on June 27, 2012, 01:12:44 AM
yea he is stuck pretty deep ... you can give him a shout see if he still need help tomorrow morning his name is gord here is cell  403 619 9788

he doesnt know anybody with a winch ...

i tried to pull him out but when i saw his jeep i knew he needed a winch 
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Post by: Kanueh on June 27, 2012, 06:07:00 AM
I can help later after about 11:00 if still needed.
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Post by: w squared on June 27, 2012, 07:17:02 AM
Here's the thing....

There are probably lots of folks here willing to help out....but a bit more information would be VERY helpful when people are deciding to head out there.

#1. WHERE IS THE JEEP?

#2. IS THE JEEP BROKEN, OR JUST STUCK?

#3. HOW BADLY IS THE JEEP STUCK?

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Post by: WhiteOut on June 27, 2012, 07:35:08 AM
In reality, the easiest way to get this done is for HIM to post instead of people just constantly posting up "He is stuck".

If he is on trail and it won't fall apart when you get a winch hooked up and can drive away under its own power, then there isn't really an issue.

But if he is off trail, the best bet is to let SRD get him out. If you get busted helping out, they don't care if you are helping out or not.

If it is in need of a tow after, Big Hill is right in Cochrane and does this kind of thing all day long. Yeah, he will pay ($160/hr from when they turnt he key in Cochrane) but that cant be avoided if that is the situation he got himself into.
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Post by: AV.NINE on June 27, 2012, 08:23:44 AM
I'd get him out but I don't pick up my trailer until tonight. If you find a flat deck I guarnetee my jeep will get him out.

Is this the tanish Tj that looked hydro locked inbetween the bridge that's falling apart with the large hill on the right side and the
River?

Was it there Sunday?

I drive past a abandon jeep there, was going to pull it to the road but there were no keys. It's in the trail on the south side of the river where the trail gets skinny and there's muskeg on the bottom. Stupid hill climb on the left that
Bikes attempt to go up.

Make sense?

Edit** roughly point 6 on the old wiaparous map. I could tell you on the new map I just don't have one.
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Post by: specialk on June 27, 2012, 08:57:39 AM
I'm trying to get a link to the Ghost area map from SRD, they have done fantastic job of messing up their site.   If anyone has one,  please post it here.   It will be much easier to determine where the vehicle is using numbered markers rather than hearsay...
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Post by: Drambuie89 on June 27, 2012, 09:52:07 AM
Agreed, SRD has royally botched their website.

Here is the only map that I can get a hold of: (The old Waiparous Map)

http://www.whiteknight.ca/waiparous.jpg
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Post by: jeepgrl on June 27, 2012, 09:54:14 AM
Second PM sent with my cell number... call me if you want me to come help today.  I am done work at 2pm, could be in Waiporous by 3.
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Post by: Kanueh on June 27, 2012, 09:59:10 AM
On
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Post by: Sahara11 on June 27, 2012, 10:17:05 AM
Ok far as i know the jeep is drivable it start up fine when i tried to pull him out with straps.

 the front tires are deeply in mud and he has the original all terran on ...  not helping the back of the jeep is lift up nothing i could of done without a winch.

with the map i see there i think he is stuck on meadow creek trail about 10- 15 mins not that far that all.

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Post by: JackstandJohnny on June 27, 2012, 10:20:59 AM
is he in an area that is fenced off?  relatively flat area with tonnes of mud.  with signs saying 'do not enter'?



you weren't yanking hard enough.  if theres nothing to anchor a jeep to the winch is completely useless.
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Post by: Drambuie89 on June 27, 2012, 10:22:51 AM
Myself and "Kanuek" are headed out there pretty quick, going to meet in Cochrane in... about 40 minutes or so. If anyone else is looking for an adventure we'll be on CB channel 10.
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Post by: Sahara11 on June 27, 2012, 10:25:11 AM
we were thinking attached the jeep with a winch on a tree with straps there is big trees close to hold on there and than use the winch he got a 10 000 pounds straps should be enough to hold ?
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Post by: specialk on June 27, 2012, 10:27:09 AM
Thanks guys.... good luck.
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Post by: JackstandJohnny on June 27, 2012, 10:32:03 AM
we were thinking attached the jeep with a winch on a tree with straps there is big trees close to hold on there and than use the winch he got a 10 000 pounds straps should be enough to hold ?

you will have to anchor the jeep to a tree.  otherwise you'll just pull the jeep in.

10k straps are a bad idea. unless its a quad.  20k - 30k at least. 

take pics when you get back and post a link. i think a bunch of us are curious to see where this thing is!
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Post by: Sahara11 on June 27, 2012, 10:54:23 AM
Damn i dont have a cb yet ...
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Post by: jeepgrl on June 27, 2012, 12:10:03 PM
I got a call from Gord... they're still stuck.  They sent video (but it's in 3gp format so I can't post here...).  They're gonna call me if the two guys that went out can't get him out, or get sucked in themselves.  I'm leaving Calgary at 2:00 sharp if anyone wants to join me.
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Post by: Kanueh on June 27, 2012, 12:50:38 PM
We're out here and have limited reception right now. He isn't on trail 95 unless he somehow crossed the river with a stock jeep but I'm not going across it's just too high. We're going to try and call him again. Jeep girl if you are still talking to him have him call my cell I'll pm it to you.
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Post by: Kanueh on June 27, 2012, 12:55:09 PM
So we called Gord and there is no answer. We're on trail 51 right now and sitting here since we have cell service.
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Post by: Drambuie89 on June 27, 2012, 12:57:07 PM
Tried going west of hwy 40 along meadow creek trail - from marker 95 got about 300m to waiprous creek (torrent of a river) and decided BAD idea to cross. Backtracked to marker 51 and are headed along there.

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Post by: Sahara11 on June 27, 2012, 01:37:04 PM
We are down there right now try to find that trail name or number ...
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Post by: morerpmfred on June 27, 2012, 02:00:46 PM
Only way in there without crossing the river is to take the lost knife.  The river crossing by four corners would be better then crossing by the gravel pits. Can leave hear in half on hour to help out.


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Post by: WhiteOut on June 27, 2012, 02:07:13 PM
Just a heads up that the wide gravel area with the small streams through it by 4 corners is a mess right now too. Very high and fast water that kept the Hummer club from crossing.
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Post by: specialk on June 27, 2012, 02:10:13 PM
But Jeeps can go through anything,  sink holes, rivers, craters, volcanoes  ::)

Keep us informed... 
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Post by: morerpmfred on June 27, 2012, 02:12:27 PM
Sign 51 is the lost knife trail start. Sign 95 is by thr gravel pit.do not cross here when hugh flows , if you cross and are swept down stream you roll over on the rocks and now under water. Sign 125 is by four corners.



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Post by: Kanueh on June 27, 2012, 02:14:39 PM
We're still here and can't find them. Jeep girl is on her way out and has talked to them and thinks she knows where they are. Otherwise I've learned a lot about this area in our explorations looking for them.
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Post by: Sahara11 on June 27, 2012, 02:23:16 PM
Trail 51 large entrance with a jeep sign in there

There is a red madza at the entrance

10 mins drive away from that entrance we tried to start the engine start very well good start
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Post by: morerpmfred on June 27, 2012, 02:56:35 PM
Heading out right now. Will not go in by myself unless i find some one on the road or some one posts location.


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Post by: Drambuie89 on June 27, 2012, 06:03:27 PM
Success!!! Thanks to all who helped out both on the forum and on the trail. Will post more about the recovery along with links to photos later.

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Post by: jeepgrl on June 27, 2012, 06:56:20 PM
thanks to all who helped! We are slowly making it back in... he has a blown fuse on his fan but it seems like that's all.

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Post by: Sahara11 on June 27, 2012, 08:41:12 PM
Glad he made it in one piece ! That was some pretty deep mud there lol
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Post by: jeepgrl on June 27, 2012, 10:30:44 PM
Thanks for coordinating the recovery sahara11!  :)
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Post by: Sahara11 on June 27, 2012, 10:38:47 PM
 
Thanks for coordinating the recovery sahara11!  :)

A pleasure  ;)
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Post by: Kanueh on June 28, 2012, 07:01:25 AM
He is very lucky you came along and decided to help out. And them went back out the next day as well to help get him out.
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Post by: JohnB on June 28, 2012, 08:30:53 AM
I'm trying to get a link to the Ghost area map from SRD, they have done fantastic job of messing up their site

First day on the internet?   ;)

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=srd+ghost+maps

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Post by: Drambuie89 on June 28, 2012, 09:42:46 AM
For those that are interested:

Photos (first 12 on the page) from the recovery.  :)

http://photobucket.com/pastthepavement
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Post by: NUXJR on June 28, 2012, 10:25:36 AM
That was a pretty good stuck!!!  Good on you guys for going out to help.  Hope nobody suffered any damage doing the recovery.
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Post by: Kanueh on June 28, 2012, 12:17:13 PM
I have a pair of shoes that will never be the same.
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Post by: specialk on June 28, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
First day on the internet?   ;)

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=srd+ghost+maps


No - just my second there smarty pants... show me the "MAP"  with all the trails and numbered markers
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Post by: Hi Lo Silver on June 28, 2012, 02:36:57 PM
I'm waiting for rookie recurve from the other thread to jump in and mention something about another full size rig on the trail  after looking at the pictures. :D Although his full size has a winch. ;D
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Post by: JohnB on June 28, 2012, 02:54:31 PM
No - just my second there smarty pants... show me the "MAP"  with all the trails and numbered markers

It is contained in the brochure.
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Post by: WhiteOut on June 28, 2012, 02:55:27 PM
Again. :o

http://forum.calgaryjeep.com/index.php?topic=25827.msg162318;topicseen#msg162318
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Post by: Kanueh on June 28, 2012, 03:22:29 PM
Groundhog Day!!!
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Post by: jeepgrl on June 28, 2012, 09:30:31 PM
That was a pretty good stuck!!!  Good on you guys for going out to help.  Hope nobody suffered any damage doing the recovery.

None of us that went to help had any damage (albeit a $15 car wash after).  Gord, the guy that got stuck, took his Jeep to the stealership today... his fan, fan belt are toast, and he needs his diff fluid changed out.  They want to charge him $1300.  I told him to go buy the parts and do it himself.  If he's gonna play, he should learn how to fix it!

Nice guy though... very appreciative.  Took us all out for beer and pizza after! :)

I can't believe another tard went out there today... same spot.
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Post by: RookieRecurve on June 29, 2012, 09:03:32 AM
I'm waiting for rookie recurve from the other thread to jump in and mention something about another full size rig on the trail  after looking at the pictures. :D Although his full size has a winch. ;D

I did not see any land-yachts in the pics?  I know my 10,000 lb chunk of Dodge would not need an anchor verhicle to pull this guy out!  Good on all of you for rescuing this guy.  I doubt having a winch would have helped this guy much.  Not wheeling alone would have though!  Hopefully others learn from this guys mistakes.  A Power Wagon would have parted that mudhole like the Red Sea.... ;)
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Post by: Kanueh on June 29, 2012, 09:09:28 AM
If he did have a winch you would have needed scuba gear to get to it.
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Post by: w squared on June 29, 2012, 10:19:43 AM
I did not see any land-yachts in the pics?  I know my 10,000 lb chunk of Dodge would not need an anchor verhicle to pull this guy out!  Good on all of you for rescuing this guy.  I doubt having a winch would have helped this guy much.  Not wheeling alone would have though!  Hopefully others learn from this guys mistakes.  A Power Wagon would have parted that mudhole like the Red Sea.... ;)

So.....who wants to take pics when the rookie tries to put his money where his mouth is?
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Post by: Hi Lo Silver on June 29, 2012, 07:29:30 PM
I did not see any land-yachts in the pics?  I know my 10,000 lb chunk of Dodge would not need an anchor verhicle to pull this guy out!  Good on all of you for rescuing this guy.  I doubt having a winch would have helped this guy much.  Not wheeling alone would have though!  Hopefully others learn from this guys mistakes.  A Power Wagon would have parted that mudhole like the Red Sea.... ;)

Actually I was really referring to the jeep in the picture and calling it a full size. It looses it's effect though when I have to explain. ::)
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Post by: afb on June 30, 2012, 04:41:48 PM
Damn you guys make me feel proud to own a Jeep!
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Post by: jeepgrl on July 01, 2012, 05:35:08 PM
I know my 10,000 lb chunk of Dodge would not need an anchor verhicle to pull this guy out! 

Your 10,000 Dodge would have slid into the trees like a pig in crap... it was 6" of mud in very thick grass. 

Oh wait... aren't you the guy on the Jeep forum that doesn't own a Jeep??? I think you're on the wrong forum.
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Post by: cLAY on July 01, 2012, 07:39:14 PM
Wow.  Pretty harsh. 

Thought this site was open to all.  Holyer than thou attitudes like that make me ashamed of being associated with the jeep crowd.

Do you even know what a power wagon is? It's not 10000 pounds and with the right tires is a VERY capable rig.
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Post by: Unknown303 on July 01, 2012, 08:37:48 PM
Wow.  Pretty harsh. 

Thought this site was open to all.  Holyer than thou attitudes like that make me ashamed of being associated with the jeep crowd.

Do you even know what a power wagon is? It's not 10000 pounds and with the right tires is a VERY capable rig.

NO kidding hey.  When did this site become a sister site to Pirate4x4.
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Post by: WhiteOut on July 01, 2012, 08:46:04 PM
NO kidding hey.  When did this site become a sister site to Pirate4x4.

Says the person with a bone stock Dodge :P

 ;D

At least you got a good color.
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Post by: heep-a-lop on July 02, 2012, 07:17:57 AM
screw u whiteout i have a bigger hitch pin then u do and u know it .....   dont make me pull the flag out..... "WHO THE frack SAILS" tosh .O
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Post by: RookieRecurve on July 02, 2012, 09:35:41 AM
Oh wait... aren't you the guy on the Jeep forum that doesn't own a Jeep??? I think you're on the wrong forum.
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Busted!  I am going to head down and buy a  Jeep Compass right away so I can still hang in these parts.  I think the heated steering wheel will increase my offroad capability immensely.......
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Post by: JackstandJohnny on July 02, 2012, 09:38:24 AM


Busted!  I am going to head down and buy a  Jeep Compass right away so I can still hang in these parts.  I think the heated steering wheel will increase my offroad capability immensely.......

you might get made fun of even more if you bought a compass lmao!

come buy my TJ, it will probably FIT in the back of you PW... ultimate tow rig!
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Post by: BUKI on July 02, 2012, 11:06:05 AM
come buy my TJ, it will probably FIT in the back of you PW... ultimate tow rig!
97 TJ ~ 4 banger...... 2" and 33s.. summer cruiser until i get bored and sell it.


And the used car salesman has returned ;D
You just bought that  :o, and summer just started days ago.  How could you possibly be bored with it.
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Post by: EEP on July 02, 2012, 11:27:11 AM
I have it covered, I have a fullsize Dodge 4X4 and a 2 Jeeps, hmmm I could
flame myself.  :o
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Post by: CatSplat on July 02, 2012, 06:30:26 PM
NO kidding hey.  When did this site become a sister site to Pirate4x4.

All of the bitching, none of the tech.
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Post by: WhiteOut on July 02, 2012, 06:35:47 PM
All of the bitching, none of the tech.

Hey! Its Beyond for Jeeps! :o
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Post by: CatSplat on July 02, 2012, 08:29:16 PM
Hey! Its Beyond for Jeeps! :o

The similarities are uncanny!
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Post by: JackstandJohnny on July 02, 2012, 08:56:07 PM

And the used car salesman has returned ;D
You just bought that  :o, and summer just started days ago.  How could you possibly be bored with it.


theres something else in the driveway thats becoming mine really soon buddy  ;D
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Post by: jeepgrl on July 03, 2012, 11:23:36 AM

theres something else in the driveway thats becoming mine really soon buddy  ;D

Another one for the minivan group!!  woot woot!  ;)
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Post by: Bnine on July 03, 2012, 01:28:40 PM
All of the bitching, none of the tech.

Seriously?

Did a guy with a lightbar on top of a ZJ actually make a sarcastic crack about lack of tech here?

Come on  ::)
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Post by: dunl on July 03, 2012, 02:29:42 PM
Seriously?

Did a guy with a lightbar on top of a ZJ actually make a sarcastic crack about lack of tech here?

Come on  ::)

Yup.  ZJ's have coil springs, so that must mean he's more hardcore than anyone on here with leaf springs, right?  :D

I believe the thread hijacking is in full progress.   ;D
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Post by: Bnine on July 03, 2012, 02:53:25 PM
Yup.  ZJ's have coil springs, so that must mean he's more hardcore than anyone on here with leaf springs, right?  :D

ZJ's dont even remotely factor into that discussion Dunl. In fact, the only thing less hardcore then antique wheeling a leafed carbed flathead would be attempting trails in near stock ZJ's.

At least the antiques get style points....................
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Post by: CatSplat on July 03, 2012, 03:22:46 PM
Yup.  ZJ's have coil springs, so that must mean he's more hardcore than anyone on here with leaf springs, right?  :D

I believe the thread hijacking is in full progress.   ;D

Aww man, everyone knows coil springs are the new hotness! I think Bill is just jealous of the huge ZJ aftermarket, whereas all the Wrangler guys have to fab their own crap all the time. ;)
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Post by: Kanueh on July 03, 2012, 04:52:18 PM
Wow...almost 40 posts on this topic just since the day he got out of the mud!
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Post by: dunl on July 03, 2012, 07:38:59 PM
ZJ's dont even remotely factor into that discussion Dunl. In fact, the only thing less hardcore then antique wheeling a leafed carbed flathead would be attempting trails in near stock ZJ's.

At least the antiques get style points....................

Way to take the bait.   ;)
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Post by: jandh on July 03, 2012, 09:54:02 PM
 ::) countdown to thread being locked...5...4...3...
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Post by: BUKI on July 03, 2012, 10:47:39 PM
I HAVE NO LEGS
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Post by: CatSplat on July 03, 2012, 11:20:11 PM
I HAVE NO LEGS

(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/CatSplat/8147dc67.jpg)
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Post by: BUKI on July 03, 2012, 11:26:42 PM
LMAO. Somebody that knows. Awesome

Oh and devils post #666