Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: apeman on July 08, 2012, 07:47:53 PM
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Best beadlocks for the money? I don't want every idiots opinion,just those who own,and run beadlock rims. If you don't got em or have never owned em,stfu.
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Jenssen could chime in here. I believe he used a weld-on beadlock kit for his steelies on his race truck, seems like a less-expensive alternative to buying new rims.
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Best beadlocks for the money? I don't want every idiots opinion,just those who own,and run beadlock rims. If you don't got em or have never owned em,stfu.
Go to Pirate and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
i am sure you have heard of that site...
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I run welded beadlocks on steelies. Run them on the highway, street and trail. Never had a problem. My tsl's are far from round so can say on balance. Love them. They were cheap and i got to pick my design. And nothin beats running 3 psi. And aparts from what anyone says, there is no law against them.
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Yeah Tom, I'm a member on pirate. Cuz jerks like me prefer straight up answers and opinions. Don't you have a jeep someone else built to buy an don't wheel?
Don't let your own ego get in the way of reality
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:laughing:
no worries, i am sure that it will take you years to catch up to me on wheelin tuff trails.
Let me know when you have done killer cutline backwards or even once forward direction. ::)
In the meantime my bought jeeps will sill go places that you have never been except for the one i now have as its too mint to to destroy. i guess if i wheel with you it will still remain mint though
Honey?
Vinegar?
Good luck on the attitude
But in seriousness, Pirate will have every REAL opinion you need in your quest. Now, i will stfu ;)
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Please Tom, I attempted killer cutline back in 2001 with crazydavey,didn't make it an ate my words then. You were still a newb having others turn wrenches so you font break a nail. Nothing has changed. Either give a valid opinion on what you run,and what works or don't. Don't get into a "who's more hardcore" pissing match. No rig you have ever owned in the past or present has lived up to the claims you make.
Don't break a nail in your response, which I am sure will prove you to be the bigger man. Lol
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http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1036731&highlight=best+beadlock+wheel (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1036731&highlight=best+beadlock+wheel)
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1034885&highlight=best+beadlock+wheel (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1034885&highlight=best+beadlock+wheel)
save you some time 8)
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2001? Only ran it the forward way with open/open on 33's.
No argument from me over my inept mechanical ability. Just because you wrench doesn't mean anything in driver ability or the beans to try insane stuff. i can not turn a wrench but i never shied away from anything.
Amazing that everyone that did turn wrenches for me never badmouthed me because i was smart enough to carry tools and parts and a bbq. i made many a trailside smorgasborg to look after those that fixed my jeeps. Did it in Ontario, Tellico, Moab and Alberta. Seemed to work out well.
As far as the hardcore commentary, you threw the first grenade. No response from me warranted until you threw out the buy and not wheel a jeep comment.
i simply responded in a Pirate fashion based on your first Pirate post. i was confused and thought i was on Pirate.
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I asked a simple question. I don't need opinions on what to use from those who don't use em.
Sure you wheeled rigs that someone else built in every crevice south of alberta,but money doesn't equal experience or respect Tom. My wife can rent a built rubicon in moan,does that make her more experienced? Keep your yap shut unless you run the equipment I'm asking opinions on. I don't need to spout where I have wheeled, just that I wheeled what I built....
I never called you out Tom, re read the post. If anyone reading has an opinion from experience,respond. If not, don't bother. Pretty simple
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Raceline has some nice, strong wheels.
Install is easy, throw in some beads and they're fine on the highway.
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i gave you 2 good links. Raceline seems to be the best.
Allied is a cheaper option that many seem to like.
PS, the rubicon i paid to be built had every single thing decided by me. The exo was my design. Gear choice, tire choice, chromolly choice, ctm's, etc. i may not know how to build it with my hands but i sure know how to determine what is best for the application i wanted.
And if your comment regarding go buy some more built jeeps that you don't wheel was not directed at me, than i must be nuts. As far as i remember the last built jeep i bought is not wheeled, so yeah, the shoe fits.
Listen, you come on asking for opinions. Maybe you had a crap day. i just called you on it.
Good luck on your quest.
Out.
i have to go manicure my nails in time for the next offroad bike race i will be doing. Its been tough these last 6 years of racing keeping my nails groomed. ;)
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No offence was meant or taken. Built vs bought is another arguement. Your not the only one on the board who has been wheeling long before cja ever came about. No need to beat dead horses or kill a thread with a valid question.
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Both of you are crusty and need to chill out. But then again, I don't run beadlocks (yet) so I'll just STFU. ;)
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I have stauns in my pitbulls... I ran them One time...
BUT they worked well at 6psi and less work than a steel bead lock. Plus you get both beads sat instead of just the outter.
I believe bill has a whole box of 15" stauns at his place you could probably nab cheap.
Plus if you went metal you'd have to find a real welder to put them on ;)
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I have some.
Allied
32 bolt Rock-a-thons
You're going to hate installing them
Put some BB's in there
I've put well over 14 ooo kms on them
I don't want to hear about DOT legal BS
I've never lost at bead at 5 psi
I had Killer Cutline spank me back in the 90's. Broke the frame on my CJ . Yes, I peed my pants
I personally don't care if Tom or Aaron tried it in their 4x4's cuz the Hawg went down it on a BMX...or so the story goes
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I personally don't care if Tom or Aaron tried it in their 4x4's cuz the Hawg went down it on a BMX...or so the story goes
Your outta hand!, but back to beadlocks, ive got weld on's on my 42 TSL's and am not overly happy with them
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i've used walker evans and spiderlocks for a few years each. walkers easily 10/10 and spiders 8/10 but only because they are a pain to clean out mud, snow, ice and airing up/down is suckier and they are more expensive.
i like that spiderlocks are normally wider than walkers.
both are balanced very very well so only tire choice will affect balancing issues.
dropping down in air pressure severely decreases fuel economy...
rims alone are around 40lbs each.
16,17,18 inch rims normally mean tires with thicker sidewalls so much more stable and dependable at very low pressures.
i often run mine at 0 psi because I have 18" rims and 35x12.5 E rated tires so they are still quite stiff ... others though have a tough time dropping below 5 psi because their sidewalls are too soft or they are just panzies.
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I've done a bunch of weldons. They are painful to work with because of no self centering and they have way more bolts then a good beadlocks. They are stupid heavy and rob power. The wrong rim and they will lose and inner bead sometimes. Ive done two sets that are prone to peeling inners and 3 that stick like glue.
Stauns work but are fragile. I'll be using some on the yj since I have lots of spare tubes.
Walkers are king.
Raceline, PSC, trail ready, AEV are all good quality and functional.
For lightweight trail ready's are my top pick.
If doing welds, ruffstuff usually has good prices on rings.
Oh. Also worked on h1's factory and re centered but that stuff is for the 1ton crowd.
There is supposedly a new staun type out there called inner air lock. But I know nothing about them.
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I know someone who uses inner air lock. For few yrs now. Seem good
Not sure how balanced they are
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No issues with Racelines or beadloacks in general in the winter I assume? Does load range matter?
The funny thing is that for the price of a fake-lock in Canada, you can pretty much get a beadlock in the US so its amoot point on getting them.
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i know someobody who can get the rings and weld them on and they work.... and he is local u might have to wait a few though.... know blackhorses rig from last yeras highriders on 44's ran them and kevin's s10 buggy this year at highriders will be running them after this years highriders he picked them up form emf this weekend while i was out there..... ( that guy can drive)....
i know clay has run weld ons for years has had problems and has found solutions....