Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Tech Talk => Topic started by: LukeDuke on November 08, 2012, 03:38:00 PM
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Does anyone have any experience with TMR Customs and there rod ends?
Going to link the Jeepster in the not too distant future and rod ends are on my short list.
Can’t really find any info on them anywhere, either that or I’m just to daft to find any.
They seem to be the same priced as the Ruff Stuff ends and they ship from Canada so no customs BS
Just don’t want to go into these blind and get burned in the long run.
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junk there is only one true rod end out there and that are the emf's....
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I am well aware of that fact. And i wish i could afford to do emf for all my joints. Sadly i only have the budget to use them for my steering setup.
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no clue how their ends are, but the customer service there is fantastic. Have ordered some gussets from there in the past along with other small items and never been let down in terms of customer service...
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they are good, just like any other rod end out there, but for mud and for example brag creek conditions rods are not the best choice. go with a johnny joint the currie ones they have are rebuildable and will hold up good. as for EMF joints they are expensive but damn good and made in Canada. Heep how do they hold up to mud? if i'm not mistaken they are rebuildable as well correct?
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i will give u A PROMISE IF U BUY THEM LAST SET U WILL EVER BUY... if they manage to get play all u do is tighten them back up... and if u happen to need it we also sell rebuild kits that consist of two new cups and a new ball(for around 20 bucks).... hold up awesome in any conditions.. arent noisy and loose as hell as most joints... clay has some really tight tolerances if they dont meet them they go in the scrap pile...
he has yet to have a faliure ... a few bent stems but thats in the warner brother ultra 4 rig and usually there is alot of damage to other parts... recently they ripped all there front links off no damage to any rod end....
i do believe the tmr's are ruff stuff rod ends they are distrubuting for them....
also another point most large rod ends out there are comparable to emf mediums.... if not smalls... our larges and franks are crazy....
our mediums in a link system for a jeep are gonna be overkill....
we had a small in a track bar(before the new patent pending joints) in a dodge 3500 with 6 inch lift guy had to tightent them 6 times probaly coulda got more outta them but he came in with 70000 on it and we replaced the inners with the new 4140 cups and ball and sent him on his way and he is oilfield in the far north...
the best way to look at it is if u have to buy two sets of tmr's which your gonna have to cause they are gonna make mad noise eventually u got yourself a set of emf's
we also offer bushing joints in both a weldable and in a body with our own durometer poly bushings....
just some food for thought dont want people wasting there money on junk when there is a bad arse alternative local to them....
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we will also soon be offering d30 and d44 rebuildable ball joints and a full steering setup utilizing our tie rods.....coming soon
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I'm going to go ahead and assume that I will see a good contribution to the Show and Shine this year from EMF.
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Thanks for the info guys, maybe i should just save my pennies and go with the EMF joints later on.
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we will also soon be offering d30 and d44 rebuildable ball joints and a full steering setup utilizing our tie rods.....coming soon
I gave up holding my breath on that one. Same with the D44 high steer arms.
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see i look at it completley differnet then most... if u wanna wait wait if u dont go buy some crap product your gonna pay for and then replace it then rinse and repeat over and over again... we are only three people me clay and erin and one lathe and we are fine with keeping up on our orders and keeping the paying not complaining customers happy... wallace international, tucker sno cats, and mine cat are all happy to wait cause in the end they get a product far superior to anything on the market.... the ball joints will be done soon just waiting on more money to buy new tooling to solve the problems every other aftermarket company is having... its a right to have a emf product on your rig... and the people that run them understand this completley...
plus cant release them till he is sure they fall under the new patent cause that would be stupid to put something out there for everyone else to copy...
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I'm going to go ahead and assume that I will see a good contribution to the Show and Shine this year from EMF.
hopefully my rig zj will be there with the long arms and motor in it... most likely erins waggy to with a linked front and maybe even the commanche
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hopefully my rig zj will be there with the long arms and motor in it... most likely erins waggy to with a linked front and maybe even the commanche
I don't think that's what Fraser was referring to.
I think that he was talking about the fact that an EMF employee is pimping EMF products and referring to the item asked about as a "crap product"...in a thread that isn't asking about EMF products. All of this is happening on a board that is partially supported by sponsorships from local businesses....but I don't think that EMF is one of the businesses that has started sponsoring us yet.
Can you see where he might have a question about what's being said?
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" board that is partially supported by sponsorships from local businesses"
this board is not supported by any sponsorship and never has been. this board is supported by the membership fees. the only thing these adds are here for is to thank the companies for supporting the 101 or show n shine. I don't believe much has changed in the past year or two.
this is also tech talk so yes, anyone can tell the OP this item is crap or that item is good. as for hyping up EMF... I don't know anyone who runs emf stuff nor have I ever seen anything on the shelf. I took a part in once and two weeks later it was still sitting on the counter where I set it down. we call this vaporware.
I banned heep-a-lop but was asked not to, was told EMF would speak with him and tell him to stfu about this stuff on this forum. it never happened like everything else EMF.
heep-a-lop - unless you have something in hand to show us... please get lost.
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no problem i will pass that along... that was about one thing and that was our parts supplier... and u wonder why clay isnt in a rush to produce stuff for u guys could be the attitudes on this forum.... oh well my zj will roll all there products... have a good one...
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i really dont see any other local companies jumping to build u guys anything... oh yeah no one in the area builds tre, ball joints and heim joints... i forgot...
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I tried to keep quiet, but all I wanted to say is that's real bad form for a company to trash every other product out there, it makes me want to stead clear of that company. I've personally never tried your products probably never will just based on the things you've said. Probably not important to you at all but it is something to think about as I know quite a few people who would also have a bad taste in there mouth for that kind of "marketing". Just passing along friendly advice. If your stuffs that good, it should stand on its own without the need to trash. For example, if Dave and Jay were on here talkin smack about each others work, I'm sure both would be a hell of a lot less busy ;)
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Too true Wil. I'm also way too busy to start any drama. Not too busy to read it though!
On another note clay makes a top notch product. Yes it may be more money but as always, you get what you pay for. The message that heepalop is getting out is right but the delivery needs work.
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EMF doesn't need to trash talk. Their hiems are the gild standard, and I'm sure their balljoints and steering setup will be worth the wait. But promoting something that doesnt existt is really pointles.aside from that they're local and great people to deal with. An they truly go out of their way for what they sell.Heep alop doesn't represent EMF,its his opinion. That doesn't mean he has to donate product to the s&s. (That's the job of the s&s rep,maybe he should solicit them for product,and not assume).
If the CJA doesn't support local biz,unless they give us some tshirts and a $50 gofft card for the show and shart, then I don't support the CJA. this is supposed to be a community based club. Not based on what they can give us.
You guys might as well ban me too.
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Since when does Al have the power to ban anyone? His last post seems to slam EMF, didn't we ban rubiohef for doing the same thing?
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Wasn't trying to suggest that the product was no good or that they need to talk trash, I have ZERO knowledge of the company, its products, owners or employees for the record. Was just suggesting to let the product speak for itself. Although I am curious how one can be sh!t compared to one that doesn't exist. If I need balljoints today, Id much rather have sh!t then nothing.
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I'm friends with both owners,and their products are what other manufacturers strive for. Everything I have ordered from them has been available within two weeks. Sure heep may be pimping something that isn't available, but hey,its his opinion. No need to have someone suggest in order to say so EMF has to flow their product to the s & s.....pffft.
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why does everyone turn every post into drama all the time on here, who cares if someone calles it junk or crap, everyone is entitled to oppinion whether its based on fact or not. I do believe EMF joints are badass and they are expensive because they are not mass produced like balistic or currie joints and are well built from what i've seen. everyone needs to chill the frack out, smoke some weed, relax a bit, have a beer or two.
yo mama
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Sounds like an offer!
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Since when does Al have the power to ban anyone? His last post seems to slam EMF, didn't we ban rubiohef for doing the same thing?
this was well over a year ago when heep-a-lop was 'representing' EMF and EMF themselves came on here and told us that he doesn't represent them. they expected us to deal with him so I did. then there were complaints and EMF asked we not ban him saying they would talk to him and get him to stop [promoting EMF and products that don't exist]. They didn't follow through and see, he is still here [promoting EMF and products that don't exist]... and worse, as mentioned by others.
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Well hello. I dont come on here often and maybe I should??? Anyhow FIEND I sent you a PM so please call me when it's at your convenience.
Clayton.... the owner of EMF WAS one of the original members. I have been on the executive board in the past. I always fully supported the CJA in any way we could - I'm a Jeeper through and through. The last 3 years have been hard on the bank account and we haven't been able to donate to the Show n Shine. We have made it clear that we would love to support it - financially we just couldn't do it. We had thousands stolen from us from a previous employee and spent the last 3 years climbing out of the hole.
I have asked time and time again to be a paid supporting vendor and was told that there was nothing like that in place yet and I was free to post things for sale. So I did.
Heep-a-lop... while I truly appreciate your support - you have to realize that you are speaking on behalf of a company that is someone else's. While we do pride ourselves in having the best product out there for heim joints, tie rod ends etc... I respect that not everyone has the money to buy our joints and that is totally up to them. Instead of posting about how ours were best and assuming TMR's were crap... nothing should have been said at all. Now any relationship we had with CJA is probably gone and I only have myself to blame for not being on here sooner.
For the original poster of this thread and the CJA board, I apologize on behalf of EMF because we are EMF... and please know that this will not happen again.
Please resume with your regular scheduled program.
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Nothing wrong with having an employee passionate about their workplace and product.
Delivery not the best but i am sure a few of us on here have been guilty of that in the past.
i also agree with apeman's summary of the situation.
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Everything I have ordered from them has been available within two weeks.
I was in a very bad spot and needed a full rebuild for a EVO rod end,.. It failed not from craftsmanship but abuse and a race repair. EMF could of been like other big business and said we are open Monday to Friday blah, blah, blah, blah but Erin personally delivered and met me in airdrie to get me what I needed. Not only did I get the parts I needed but I got the newest version which is considerably stronger ( the first one took years of s#it and abuse ) and at a very resonable price.
A+++
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He is obviously a young guy with a hard on for some parts he thinks highly of. Not the end of the world. Yeah it comes across as a bit much at times, but whatever, just shows he's passionate about something.
I've always had good luck with everyone from Evo and the parts they build and sell. Not to mention Clayton is without a doubt the one the most talented fabricators we have available to us in this industry.
Anyways, when it comes to the rod ends, Heep is completely right. Just needs a bit more tact in his delivery :)
I wouldnt worry Erin.
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I remember Erin picking me up to go to my first Jeep meeting (a little while back ;) ). My Jeep was busted and she was kind enough to give me a lift to the meeting.
These guys are great folks that always supported this club when they could and they make killer products.
PS: Erin,... Kevin and I still have to pass by the shop and get a few things from you guys. I have not forgotten... I don't expect the same deal...it was way too long ago ::).
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Bump for the Boys at TMR Customs. Every time I have dealt with Tim there has never been any BS involved and received my purchase sooner then expected and always on the ball with a quality product!