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Title: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: pooljunky on March 21, 2014, 09:26:17 PM
My bud just got a ticket today of 50$ to get bigger fenders because it did not cover the tires fully .. he took the ticket and laughed.
but seriously I have never had a problem for this.. and I can 33s with spacers with stock fenders before.. I guess its just a matter of getting the only cop that is not meeting quota.. lol
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: JackstandJohnny on March 21, 2014, 09:32:50 PM
more common than you think.
if you run mud flaps you can usually get away with it.
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: w squared on March 23, 2014, 07:26:56 AM
If your google-fu is strong enough, you can find the actual code on line...but fenders, mud flaps, driving lights, and bumper height are all limited/controlled in Alberta.

As I recall, the reader's digest version is that you are supposed to have full coverage of your tires by your fenders (the fenders are supposed to stick out farther than the tires) and your rear tires are supposed to have mudflaps that extend at least halfway down the tire. I've seen guys run without either one of those things for years without any issues....and I've also seen tickets issued to some guys for not having mud flaps even when they had full fender coverage. I'd say that part of it is luck of the draw, and part of it is not giving cops any reason to pull you over....or not cheesing them off after they pull you over.

Like Johnny says - mudflaps seem to be the antidote to most "tire coverage" relate tickets, and they are easy to take off before you head onto the trail. Your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: new2jeepguy on March 23, 2014, 12:26:14 PM
I was in the enforcement business for 25 yrs .  Mud flap tickets are what we call Chicken -crap tickets.  I pride myself in the fact that I never wrote one.  My son got one  from out of town peace Officer because a stone could get kicked up by his big tires,well all the stone chips I,ve ever had was from the average passenger car in font of me.  As for throwing up mud,   how much mud do you get on the roads?      Lame ticket
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: cjust on March 23, 2014, 07:07:08 PM
i may be getting alot of these....
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: JackstandJohnny on March 24, 2014, 08:54:03 AM
just run some big ole' flaps. make them removable. the uglier they are, the more reason a cop doesn't have to pull you over.  my tires stuck out way to far, but with the big ole' flaps on it was like, 'well at least he's trying' and thats enough most of the time. except on may long; when they have the 0 tolerance days you're likely screwed. i'm sure the officers don't like giving the tickets either.

as for rock chips; every one i've ever gotten came from a Civic or some other small car on the road ::)

Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: w squared on March 24, 2014, 12:01:46 PM
just run some big ole' flaps.



+1. Like most times when Johnny says that the answer involves a "Big Ole'" anything, he is correct.

A set of mud flaps that are ugly and prominently displayed will get you out of most tire coverage tickets. Unless you are the sacrificial lamb that gets pulled over by the mole lady when they are doing a blitz. Then all of your charm and animal magnetism will fall flat on it's face.
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: new2jeepguy on March 24, 2014, 12:54:13 PM
I agree with all the comments you guys made,   but even I will take the 57$ ticket over putting on  big old mud flaps ,    man   they ugly,
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: JackstandJohnny on March 24, 2014, 12:56:25 PM
lol i like ugly. suited my ZJ

these bad boys saved my bacon a few times.

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/B214BAE0-F144-4C7E-A20D-70462D6C7090-17572-0000098ECE991010_zps1c07f54a.jpg)

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/F7CBD80C-F8BF-43CC-B0DF-7BD8AB46D40D-17572-0000098EA699E43B_zps9cd4faa7.jpg)
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: morerpmfred on March 24, 2014, 12:58:38 PM
Yea sometimes those chickin sheet tickets are bogus. What us purps really need is a good beating. Never got any but sure deserved it.
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: WhiteOut on March 24, 2014, 01:46:28 PM
Don't want a ticket? Follow the TSA.

Otherwise, pay to play and don't bitch if you get caught.
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: w squared on March 24, 2014, 01:48:00 PM
Don't want a ticket? Follow the TSA.

Otherwise, pay to play and don't bitch if you get caught.

Will you please stop trying to apply logic, common sense, and adult reasoning to this debate? We're talking about Jeeps!
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: new2jeepguy on March 29, 2014, 08:43:16 PM
and you know what else?     My big tires are so heavily treaded I couldn't pick up a road rock and spit it out at the car behind me if I wanted too       .Just because its law doesn't make it  right  and this is from me ,  the ex- cop.  There s a by-law in Cochrane you can,t put your garbage out before 7 pm on the day before pick -up day    JEEEEEESSSSSSSuuuuuus    and your not allowed to hang your clothes on a clothes line to dry  ( only you old guys will know what that is)   Don't get me started   Man I gotta shake my head sometimes   Any way yeah if you wanna be legal   mud flaps will do the trick.    I think the general rule was 60 per cent rear coverage was good enough, if you needed total coverage your mud flaps would have to drag on the ground and no car would be  legal.
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: rangerdanger on March 31, 2014, 01:17:58 PM
lol i like ugly. suited my ZJ

these bad boys saved my bacon a few times.

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/B214BAE0-F144-4C7E-A20D-70462D6C7090-17572-0000098ECE991010_zps1c07f54a.jpg)

(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s37/johnnyzj/F7CBD80C-F8BF-43CC-B0DF-7BD8AB46D40D-17572-0000098EA699E43B_zps9cd4faa7.jpg)


Hey johnny are those floor mats? lol
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: JackstandJohnny on March 31, 2014, 01:22:51 PM
floormats?
why would anyone do that?!?!?!?!?!
lol.... ok yes they are ........ 7.99 Canadian tire special
Title: Re: Re: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: BUKI on March 31, 2014, 02:26:34 PM
floormats?
why would anyone do that?!?!?!?!?!
lol.... ok yes they are ........ 7.99 Canadian tire special
After reading that I had to do a double take. Now I'm crying... Thats fing hilarious. Love it.



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Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: AV.NINE on April 14, 2014, 02:25:40 PM
Back on topic....

What is his jeep registered as?

http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Regs/2009_122.pdf

64(4) A passenger car is not required to have a mudguard.

Last time I checked my jeep was registered as a "Station Wagon", I do believe a station wagon is a passenger car.

Full "Mud Guard" law:

Mudguards
64(1) A motor vehicle or trailer must have a part of its body, a fender or a mudguard that covers the width of each tire.

(2) The body part, fender or mudguard referred to in subsection (1) must be above each wheel and
(a) extend downwards at the rear of each axle or axle group to at least the centre line of the axle, or
(b) be a distance away from the ground equivalent to at least 1/3 of the horizontal distance from the bottom edge of the mudguard to the centre line of the axle, but not closer to the ground than 150 millimetres when the vehicle is loaded.

(3) In addition to the requirements of subsection (1), the following types of vehicle must be equipped with rear wheel splash and stone-throw protection that complies with SAE Standard J682:
(a) a commercial vehicle or combination of commercial vehicles that is registered for a gross weight of more than, or that weighs more than, 4500 kilograms and that is not a bus;
(b) a bus;
(c) a trailer.

(4) A passenger car is not required to have a mudguard.

(5) This section does not apply to a trailer designed and constructed for drive-on and drive-off low loads.
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: AV.NINE on April 14, 2014, 02:32:36 PM
Oh and a definition of a passenger car:

“passenger car” means a vehicle having a designated seating capacity of 10 or less, but does not include an all-terrain vehicle, a competition vehicle, a low-speed vehicle, a multi-purpose passenger vehicle, an antique reproduction vehicle, a motorcycle, a truck, a trailer, a vehicle imported temporarily for special purposes or a three-wheeled vehicle; (voiture de tourisme)

Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: TANK on April 14, 2014, 07:12:46 PM
I just checked my TJ registration and it says vehicle style "utility". Not sure what that is suppose to mean? Other than I will need mud flaps....someday.
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: Spoonman on May 19, 2014, 08:12:03 PM
I got a ticket a couple years ago for "no mudguards".   I suppose it was valid but it still sucked.   My current vehicle has tires that stick out 3-4".  I have had good luck so far.  I just obey the laws and try not to catch the attention of the police. 
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: Greg-100 on June 30, 2014, 11:07:31 AM
Here is the best reason for mud flaps.

Without them you give the police a reason to stop you.

So now the lack of mud flaps become an impaired driving charge etc.

Greg
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: EEP on July 01, 2014, 04:28:58 PM
I don't think mudflaps on your vehicle allow one to drive after drinking.
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: rws on July 08, 2014, 05:44:56 PM
+1. Like most times when Johnny says that the answer involves a "Big Ole'" anything, he is correct.

A set of mud flaps that are ugly and prominently displayed will get you out of most tire coverage tickets. Unless you are the sacrificial lamb that gets pulled over by the mole lady when they are doing a blitz. Then all of your charm and animal magnetism will fall flat on it's face.

Hey.....I get an A+ for effort.. and she almost said "Yes"....
Title: Re: Buddy got told to get bigger fenders by cops
Post by: Immortal on July 08, 2014, 09:47:49 PM
After you asked her to go for a steak dinner....

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