Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => Land Issues, Trail Projects & Trail Stewardship => Topic started by: SwampSinger on May 20, 2008, 09:21:01 AM
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It's like every year after may long weekend.... :'(
LOOKING FOR VOLUNTEERS TO GO CLEAN UP ON SATURDAY THE 24TH... BRING GARBAGE BAGS, WORK GLOVES, AND SHOVELS.
We'll meet at the McLean Store at 9:30AM on Saturday the 24th..... see you all there.
ANY HELP is well appreciated ;D
THANK YOU in ADVANCE!!
Dom
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There's a bunch of us on our site that were going to do the same thing. I'll post this over there. Thanks Dom!
p.s. I have a ton of orange SRD garbage bags left over that I'll bring.
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YAHOO! Global News is coming out again. Just arranging the meeting time & place with Vanessa Lee the reporter.
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that's great Erin!!! See you guys at the store ;D ;D ;D
I posted on the FWS web page also...
Thank you !!! ;D
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I have prowelled all morning on this website, read a whack of blogs, printed off my membership form, am attending the meeting on Wed and will be at the Mclean Creek store with bells on this weekend. It is a crying shame that this is nessesary. I fully support what this organization stands for. Looking forward to becoming a member!
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Thank you Walkerdee... ;D
Welcome to the site and looking forward to meeting you tomorrow or during the weekend.
It's a tough battle we have to face ... it will be lots of work but we will get trails back. I believe this club has great values and we encourage people that has the same values to join us. That's for sure! ;D You can make your own opinion after meeting a some of the members.
Cheers,
Dom
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i dont i know if any of you caught the news today but i doesnt look good out there. :(. apperently it got really trashed this weekend.
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Ladies & Gentlemen giffer is correct, the sun ran a page as well as the tv ran the story a couple of times, it is not looking good for the sport and recreation that we have chosen to follow which is unfortunate.
Where Im currently working I get to talk to some individuals who work for SRD, and fish and wildlife and they are fully aware of the grad parties and out of control people who go to such places to use and abuse the very things we are trying to protect but alas the same old song is being sung, the one bad apple,the few who spoil the things for the many and so on and so forth.
It appeared to be mainly alcohol and drugs that were considered to be among the highest of tickets issued and this I personally believe to be the root of the problem, dont get me wrong as i like a drink or two but also value my license way more, some of you fine people might disagree but an alcohol and any kind of non prescription drug ban would be the way i would personally vote for.
Ok im done with my words and thank you for reading,
regards and happy wheelin
Darren
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Hey unionjack,
I'm pretty sure there is a "non-prescription drug" ban everywhere in North america. It's not working so well. But an alcohol ban works for me, It's pretty easy to find a case of beer in the back of a pick up truck
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YAHOO! Global News is coming out again. Just arranging the meeting time & place with Vanessa Lee the reporter.
When we talk with the reporter we may want to think of what we want to tell her before she puts us on the spot. Personally I would love to tell her that some of the responsible off roaders of Alberta supported a petition asking the Government to close McLean Creak in advance of the May long weekend. I would also like to add that our request was ignored by the Government because the SRD has more clout to close the park when they show it ripped up and damaged. If they had closed it and there was no damage it would be difficult to close the park as they have no ammunition to win public support!!!
What do you think?? Am I wrong in my assumption's? Unfortunately I bet I am 100% correct in my assumption. >:(
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here here!!!!!!!! i second that,
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I doubt SRD wants a park to close. Without parks there would be no need for an SRD.
As for the damage, It will be as bad as Global wants it to be. Why is it the helicopter view of the area never shows the clear cutting and other industies operating in the area? :(
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Unionjack,
There are many PRESCRIPTION and over the counter drugs that are as bad or worse than alcohol. In my clinic i see many folks on these daily and i can not imagine driving on some of them.
i digress...
An alcohol ban seen in provincial parks is the way to go.
As far as what do we tell the media?
Simple.
Ted Morton and SRD failed us again.
Lip service fines but none with any bite. Where was the ENFORCEMENT of people off trails?
Where was the ENFORCEMENT of campers leaving garbage?
Where was the ENFORCEMENT of campers creating mud bogs off trail?
Rick Blackwood is quoted as saying that his office and members from the community used 20 pick up trucks to haul garbage last year...
really? because i never saw any SRD haul anything. It was US, not them.
Check this article out, Mortron actually seems AWARE of the problems while Blackwood wants us GONE!
http://www.680news.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n0520102A
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I just don't understand WHY they allow someone without an OHV to be allowed to camp in an OHV area? Why not have someone at the gate checking people in and if they don't have an OHV they can squirt off and if they do, they need to register their OHV before they are allowed in.
I don't understand why user fees, banning alcohol, closing the area to wheeling after dark, no random camping etc isn't a priority when all of the responsible users of the areas are pushing for these things to happen! Well, I digress... I do understand. It's because the government WANTS us to fail. Some loser takes his brand new work truck through a mud hole, the Herald publishes it & all of a sudden he is grouped in as "an offroad enthusiast". I'm sorry but driving your pickup through a frikken mudhole isn't offroading, nor is it responsible use of the area.
I think we need to be recognized for the hours and hours of volunteer work we do each year to clean these up. The government went out with 20 trucks & cleaned? WTF?? When did this happen?? When we were pulling that abandoned Nissan out of McLean last year (took us 10 hours, btw), we saw ONE SRD guy on a quad at the end of the day who asked us what we were doing, said "oh we were going to get to that vehicle sometime next year", thanked us for our efforts as he stood along the sidelines for about 20 mins taking pictures and then went on his way.
We do all the work & SRD gets the praise. It will always be like that. We need to do something like we did last year... http://youtube.com/watch?v=7PItwyjSSdM straight to the point...
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It looks like it will be a wet one.... ::)... don't forget your Gum boots...
and stop highjacking my thread :P ;D
Frustration with the government will never end... we still have to work with them..oh well
See you all Sat.
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Vent your frustration at the Calgary Herald Sound off web site:
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=db51b8a4-53fb-4d0a-b32d-32e9baa8e7db
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I added a comment but it hasnt' been posted yet... :-X
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Wow ....some of the comments are so ignorent.... This Doug Rolf guy has no clue what he's talking about... the only thing you see out there is clear cutting.... as far as the eye can see. what a moron!
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interesting comments. just fuels my hatred of stupid people though........
see ya saturday
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Ok everyone, I just got a call to tell me that Global Calgary (Vanessa Lee) as well as Global NATIONAL (Frances) are both coming out to cover the story. They are both very interested in this so lets make it count!!! They will be meeting us at the store at 9:30.
See you there!!!
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So this is on rain or shine?
Ill be there with the girl friend!
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So this is on rain or shine?
Ill be there with the girl friend!
Rain or shine ... Fragz just mentoinned to me that they will have a few tents out there to keep warm.
Thank you for the support!!! ;D
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I'll be at 9:00. I need to catch a ride with somebody from the store because my Jeep is on jackstands in the garage.
Ron
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I'll be at 9:00. I need to catch a ride with somebody from the store because my Jeep is on jackstands in the garage.
Ron
NP Ron .. we'll find you a ride!..thx!!!!!!
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pretty sure i have an open seat if you need it ron
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Yes... Northern Metalic has generously donated 24 sets of work gloves, a box of garbage bags, he is bringing 2 shelter tents, a generator, heaters, a microwave, BBQ and a bunch of hotdogs/hot chocolate/coffee. I'll probably pick up some pop & maybe something for snacks.
I'm on camera duty and will have my dually there, Clay is bringing an endump I believe. See ya there!
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That is very Generous.... Thank you !!!!!
pretty sure i have an open seat if you need it ron
I heard that Eric has really bad farts... good luck Ron :P ;D
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Figured I'd post this here as well....Here's my deal, I just bought an 01 TJ last week, stock on 31's with tow points and I can grab a CB and tow strap. I have been on a couple runs with my buddy in his Rubicon (the wood collector on mother's day) and was at this week's meeting. I want to come and help you guys but have never driven off-road myself and I am not sure if this is the proper event to start....what's you thoughts boys? Think you'll be pulling me out all day or will I be able to be of some use. I could always come and leave my Jeep at the store and ride with some one else... Give me your thoughts.
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Drive out to the store, meet some of the fine folks, and drive out to the trail, and go as far as you feel comfy doing so...
Do we need another end dump???? I could hook up in the morning..to a winch truck...
Brian
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BEZZ ..it's a good time to come ..we mostly will go where people camped and pick up some of the "gifts" they left back... nothing crazy...
Please come along... come and check us out... I have a red Cherokee with flat fenders...
Dom
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The weather was really crappy but we had a really good turn out. There was not that much garbage out there .. It was fairly clean.
Huge Thanks to everyone that showed up... ;D Thanks to the Nissan Club and the Bomp Bomp Club... it was good to meet you all.
Special Thanks to Perry at Northern Metallic for the hot drinks and the food.. it felt great in the belly!!! and also big thanks to Evolution for the containers. We can always count on you guys to be there!!!
PS: you might see me on the news on Global... I hope I did ok.. :o
We had another successful Clean up... ;D
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yup good day sorry had to leave early i was drenched and starting to get really cold
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The weather was really crappy but we had a really good turn out. There was not that much garbage out there .. It was fairly clean.
PS: you might see me on the news on Global... I hope I did ok.. :o
Wow, what a turn out, that was awesome to see. We picked up very little garbage around the gravel pit area.
Good job guy's, I saw Clayton on Global National and Dom on Global evening news. 8) 8) 8)
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Scroll to abot the 11 minute mark Global National
http://canwest.a.mms.mavenapps.net/mms/rt/1/site/canwest-globalnational-pub01-live/current/launch.html?maven_playerId=globalnationallarge&maven_referralPlaylistId=b121971a14e41cd1177d490bea68f857baf5fd22&maven_referralObject=740812
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yeah dom you did fine :P my shoes made it on the news lol and brians jeep as well as everyone jeep made it on the news it was a wicked turn out and it was nice to meet other fellow jeepers
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Van's VIN
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That the maroon one? That thing's been there since last year, I dont get it...why doesnt anybody get in trouble for this and be held responsible for removal????! :o >:(
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yup thats the maroonish one
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My lil' trailer took 250kgs on the NOSE to the landfill off of 52nd. I think that was the first time I was at Fisher West in 2 years, what a difference. Thanks to all who showed up!
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You guys/gals are awesome!
i arrived in the afternoon with a trailer ready to pick up the many bags of garbage.
But the media lied, as it turned out that Maclean was the cleanest its ever been. Considering that Maylong 2008 saw the LARGEST gathering of campers ever.
Now pay attention SRD. Here are some pics of Maclean Creek. Do you think its possible that RUTTING is an act of Mother Nature?
Is it possible in your biased outlook of OHV use that most of the damage is caused by Mommy Nature?
If memory serves correct, 2005 , 2006 and 2007 had severe flooding and EVERY trail i saw off the main road had creeks running down the trail. i can't imagine what the higher elevation trails looked like...
Minister Morton, there are a majority of responsible 4x4ers in this great province. We have been hear for decades. We have every year gone out and done clean ups, trail repair, trail reclamations and bridge building. We are not the grad kids and once a year redneck Maylong partiers that leave a swath of media sensationalism behind. We care about the future. We also want you to know that its only Maylong that unwanted behavior occurs. Any other weekend is paradis
Here are some pics of hardworking Albertans using their own time, money and resources to clean up an area that was unanimously petitioned to do 3 things for Maclean Creek Maylong 2008.
1/ Ban alcohol
2/ Ban random camping
3/ ENFORCEMENT
Now, the press can play it up by stating the charges but not ONE charge was brought to any OHV user for willful destruction of Maclean Creek. WHY is that?
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And now for the DAMAGE that should be unacceptable. First, Mother Nature's HAVOC:
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And now for the damage that is overtaking anything any 4x4 could ever do:
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Anytime you want to talk about REALITY, Minister Morton, please call me
403-815-1943
Dr. Tom Kelly