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Offline LLYJ

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Re: WWJD, Stauns or weld-on rings?
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2015, 02:35:37 PM »
Honestly I think both have their benefits, drawbacks and limitations, I have run both and would run either again.  The only reason my Stauns are in the basement right now is I was holding out for a 2nd hand set of 15x10 DCII's which will probably never happen... I would offer mine to you (new coyote fillers thingies and tubes) but sounds like you're set up. My experience with the Stauns other than testing them out a few times was limited, that said I read alot! when deciding which way to go. Both options work a helluva alot better than nothing.

My external beadlocks are quite a bit lighter than 90% of the u-build kits out there.  They are a self centering type if you put them togther right, (Sorry Bnine if I am getting what defines them as self centering wrong ???) (but the square edged beadseats are a bitch but they do force the tire to be properly centered).  They are not as strong as most of the rockcrawler intended types, I ran them on a couple different jeeps and other than the occaisional broken bolt I haven't had any problems (keeping in mind I have small HP motors (2.5 and a 4.0) and never ran bigger than 35's on them and I drive conservatively.  They run less bolts (only 16) and the outers are made out of alloy, they are profile shaped, not flat and for the jeep you need 1/2 inch thickness, not the thinner 1/4" and have recessed countersinking for the hex heads, the weld on inner ring are fairly low profile as well.   They are purpose manufactured for sprint car racing and you can get them from Bicknell Racing Products which I see now has a Canadian on-line store.  mine are on a standard steel 8" D-window (not the two-piece rims they sell).  Only complaint is the nice red anodizing faded to an ugly barbie pink colour over time, I had them painted black on my YJ for the last year but am repainting them red again.  I also re-seal the welds with clear silicone whenever they are apart, couldn't tell you if they would leak if I didn't, probably would though. well that is my attempt at describing them technically LOL - some profile diagrams would really help but whatever you get the idea

The backside of the outers


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Offline LLYJ

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Re: WWJD, Stauns or weld-on rings?
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2015, 02:44:10 PM »
Just as a point of curiousity - I talked to a guy from Coyote on Pirate last year that said at least one of the hammers teams was running both external beadlocks and Staun II's/Coyotes this year (won't work with 1st gen stauns tho)
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Re: WWJD, Stauns or weld-on rings?
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2015, 03:53:43 PM »
Lighter duty than the big 32 bolt ones most off roaders use, but those look to be a lot better quality than 2 quarter inch pieces of plate with 32 holes drilled into them.

Does the inner ring you weld to the rim have a lip on it that causes the bead to center?
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Re: WWJD, Stauns or weld-on rings?
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2015, 04:40:34 PM »
Yep here is a very poor diagram - the outer ring is also concave, gives you the impression it is bent but it is by design
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Re: WWJD, Stauns or weld-on rings?
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2015, 12:58:40 PM »
Yeah, considerably different than flat rings.
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Re: WWJD, Stauns or weld-on rings?
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2015, 11:22:36 AM »
Wwjd? What would Johnny do?


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Re: WWJD, Stauns or weld-on rings?
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2015, 05:25:33 PM »
Wwjd? What would Johnny do?


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He'd use JB weld, duct tape, tractor inner tubes he bought off of Kijiji, and 9 wire.


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Re: WWJD, Stauns or weld-on rings?
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2015, 09:49:10 PM »
If any one could make that work you know it's me;)
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Re: WWJD, Stauns or weld-on rings?
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2015, 08:09:55 AM »
It wasn't a question.


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