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More than 400 charges laid in long-weekend rowdiness
« on: May 19, 2008, 09:00:29 PM »
Mon, May 19, 2008 Calgary Sun

Tearing up the mud in four-wheel drives without brakes and driving while intoxicated in McLean Creek are among the worrying offences that led police to lay more than 400 charges in southern Alberta campgrounds over the long weekend.

Rowdy McLean Creek campers turned the recreational area southwest of Calgary into a “bush party,” marring the long weekend for the majority of well-behaved outdoor enthusiasts, said RCMP Sgt. Patrick Webb.

“The vast majority of people were pretty good,” Webb said about the estimated 5,000 campers who flocked to McLean Creek for the balmy Victoria Day long weekend.

“But there is a significant number that are doing as they’ve done in previous years, and that is treat it as a place where you can do anything and anything goes.”

Mounties from Cochrane and Turner Valley detachments were kept busy trying to curb the mayhem in McLean Creek, laying a wide array of charges.

“It is essentially a small town that is descending onto this area and a large number of them are intent on partying,” said Webb.

“It is just a never-ending job to do the enforcement, to try and keep a lid on the activities of some of the rowdy ones.”

Meanwhile, Sundre, Crowsnest Pass and Kananaskis detachments, also responsible for enforcing the law at popular camping spots, laid fewer charges this May long weekend compared to previous years.

“The number of people appeared to be somewhat similar, but by far the amount of enforcement that had to be done was way down,” said Webb.

“But you start counting McLean Creek and the numbers are up.”

The locks on a gate leading to private land in McLean Creek were broken six times over the long weekend, with thousands sneaking in to set up camp and tear up a “pristine grassy meadow” with off-road vehicles until it was a “mud hole,” said Webb.

Campers in McLean Creek also dumped blackened vehicles, and mounds of beer cans and food refuse in the bush, the province’s area manager Rick Blackwood said Sunday.

Blackwood said the staggering volume of garbage is as concerning as last Victoria Day long weekend, when it took officials and community groups several weeks to pull 20 pick-up loads of trash from the McLean Creek area.


Campers trash long weekend

Cops report alcohol offences, irresponsible off-roading and garbage dumping

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Burned out cars and mounds of trash from campers are piling up again this May long weekend, leading some to suggest there could be further crackdowns on provincial recreation areas.

Recreationalists in McLean Creek, south of Kananaskis, have wreaked the worst havoc so far this May long weekend, said the province's area manager Rick Blackwood.

The popular off-roading destination is playing host to as many as 5,000 campers, who have dumped blackened vehicles, beer cans and food refuse in the bush, he said.

"We're starting to see a lot of garbage issues, particularly in McLean Creek and the Castle area down south," said Blackwood.

"Just an enormous amount of garbage and debris."

Last Victoria Day long weekend it took officials and community groups several weeks to pull 20 pick-up loads of trash from the McLean Creek area.

It was also environmentally scarred by off-roaders, who plowed through creek beds and tore up delicate wetlands.

"I don't know if ... McLean Creek was much better than last year," said Blackwood.

After last year's rowdy revelling and destruction in Willow Creek, located 120 km southwest of Calgary, Sustainable Resource Minister Ted Morton restricted campers and off-road enthusiasts in the area.

Blackwood said the province's area managers will brief Morton about this year's long weekend destruction in McLean Creek.

The discussion could potentially lead to a further crackdown. but Blackwood said it's premature to say whether new rules would be introduced.

"We'll chart a course of action after we have that debrief," he said. "Last year, when the minister saw a lot of things he didn't like in Willow Creek, he quickly acted to invoke some new rules."

Those rules in Willow Creek included restricting campers to designated campground areas and to a maximum 14-day stay.

A weight limit was also imposed to restrict off-road vehicles that weigh more than 363 kg from the popular area.

RCMP Sgt. Gill Vincent said rowdy campers in McLean Creek have kept officers hopping this long weekend.

"There's a lot of people and the weather's nice and there's people driving around with ATVs all over the place," said Vincent.

"There's a lot of charges being laid."

Most of the charges have been for liquor infractions, including open alcohol inside vehicles and underage drinking, he said.
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Re: More than 400 charges laid in long-weekend rowdiness
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2008, 10:46:32 PM »
Sounds like locking everyone out for the long weekend would have been a great idea ::).  CRAZY....just plain CRAZY!!

Will be trying to get to the meeting Wednesday to get more info.

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Re: More than 400 charges laid in long-weekend rowdiness
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2008, 09:45:13 AM »
It's sad... but it's done... we need to go clean up after the yahoos like every year  >:(....


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Re: More than 400 charges laid in long-weekend rowdiness
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2008, 07:06:44 PM »
maybe next year we could convince the at home military to lay down an exercise in riot control/martial law. you might think it's far fetched, i think its a sane request and an excellent way for them to get in some real world training. think about it. they even get to train in their G-wagons all lifted with snorkels and their LAV's. I am sure a years notice would make a world of difference in them setting up camp.
i would love to hear about some rubber bullets flying. im fumed.

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Re: More than 400 charges laid in long-weekend rowdiness
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2008, 07:23:43 PM »
check this out

http://www.metronews.ca/calgary/local/article/55989

The entrance they are talking about being damaged... Leading to the gravel pit...
There was only one way in and out, and because it was damaged so badly, they have to go through this gate,” he said, adding every vehicle was given warning tickets.

Is that "entrance" not designed specifically as a car trap ? To help keep out cars, minivans, schoolbuses, ford escapes  ;D, etc...

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Re: More than 400 charges laid in long-weekend rowdiness
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2008, 07:47:01 PM »
I believe that entrance was originally designed as a car trap, but has undergone modifications by usage and heavy rain etc..
Maybe we could add it to the 'project list ' to stop the pickups and fifth wheel trailers from getting in. Eventually all the entrances to the trails should have traps built into them.

I saw some of the media coverage on the TV, and I don't think it was too bad at all. For the most part. There was recognition that maclean creek is an off road area, it is not a party zone.. There was some pic's of dirty trucks and some mud flying around. But the pics I saw all appeared to be on trail, I don't advocate tearing up trails. But there will always be a small element of people who just don't get it and act that way, we just have to work at making that group smaller and smaller.

There was so much positive coverage for the clubs and the responsible user's that I find it hard to get upset about the small negative part. Looking at the big picture I think we are going in the right direction and just need to keep pushing.

I am happy about the increased enforcment, the gov't is beginning to understand where the real problems are coming from.
I talked to a couple of officers today that spent time at Maclean on the weekend, there were mixed feelings. They were happy to see so many young people hauling out garbage and being well behaved, but seemed to be very annoyed about the yahoo's,the fighting, the drugs, alcohol, sexual assaults and so on. My guess is that from what the media is saying and from others, that there will be an alcohol ban in place next year. That along with this years enforcement will hopefully have the yahoo's party somewhere else next year.
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Re: More than 400 charges laid in long-weekend rowdiness
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2008, 02:47:18 PM »
Dont kid yourselves. No one ever uses that trail to pull trailers in.

That access has been a trail, and non car/trailer accessable since I was 16 years old.

The gate was cut open 6 times because thats how people get in.

When questioned about getting out, they cry "Oh, we took the staging area trail in, but now its impassable"

Bunch of BS.
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Re: More than 400 charges laid in long-weekend rowdiness
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2008, 04:12:19 PM »
Thursday night we went in that entrance no problem to get back to our camp site... this was it come monday trying to get out... Please Excuse The Muddy Pics





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Re: More than 400 charges laid in long-weekend rowdiness
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2008, 04:32:24 PM »
I was camping deep on Fisher East and the trail leading back up to gravel Mclean Trail was 100 times cleaner than it was last year. There was literally 1, yes 1 campsite that had left garbage and it was already piled up and bagged. That area was such a filthy mess come Sunday last year and it looks great right now as I was one of the last campsites to leave on Monday.
Its such BS that people such as Rick "knows nothing" Blackwood just tells the media that the garbage out there is absolutely the same terrible amount that was left over last year. It isn't and I saw with my own eyes that there was HUGE change. Yea Im sure there were still a few DUI's and a couple locks getting cut off but seriously....give the campers and OHV users some credit.   >:(
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