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U.S. Said to Seek a Chrysler Plan for Bankruptcy
« on: April 23, 2009, 08:15:34 PM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/business/24chrysler.html?_r=1&hp
April 24, 2009
U.S. Said to Seek a Chrysler Plan for Bankruptcy
By MICHELINE MAYNARD and MICHAEL J. de la MERCED
DETROIT — The Treasury Department is directing Chrysler to prepare a Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing as soon as next week, people with direct knowledge of the talks said Thursday.

The company faces a deadline of April 30 to come up with a viable business plan supported by its creditors, the United Automobile Workers union, and Fiat, the Italian car company that wants to acquire a stake in Chrysler.

The Obama administration has told Chrysler it will provide up to $6 billion in new financing, on top of the $4 billion in loans it has already given the company, if Chrysler can complete a deal by next Thursday with a cost structure that gives it a chance of survival. The creditors have so far balked at the terms suggested by the Treasury.

But the negotiations have taken a new direction. Treasury now has an agreement in principle with the U.A.W., whose members’ pensions and retiree health care benefits would be protected in the event of a bankruptcy filing, said the people with knowledge of the discussions, who asked for anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case.

Moreover, under this outcome, Fiat would complete its alliance with Chrysler while the company is under bankruptcy protection.

Fiat, a company that was struggling this decade, is seeing new opportunities in Detroit’s troubles. Its chief executive, Sergio Marchionne, already in Washington for talks on the Chrysler deal in recent days, has raised the possibility of also acquiring the Opel division of General Motors in meetings with United States officials, a top government negotiator said Thursday.

Such a deal, while far from certain, could turn Mr. Marchionne, a lawyer by training, into one of the most prominent auto executives in the world.

During a call with analysts Thursday, Mr. Marchionne said he had not had direct talks with Opel, adding, “Chrysler is my first and foremost objective.”

Mr. Marchionne has long argued that the number of automakers must shrink. “We need to go back to making cars and making money making cars,” he said Thursday.

He said he was not trying to build a new empire, as some analysts have suggested, but rather create a profitable template for the industry. “The obligation is on all of us not to do stupid things,” he added.

But many analysts doubt that Mr. Marchionne can pull off a three-way deal, despite his success at reviving Fiat since he took over five years ago.

The Chrysler talks, with the deadline nearing, are more urgent than any discussions over Opel, particularly in light of the $6.9 billion in Chrysler debt held by the company’s lenders.

Despite any hopes for a smooth outcome from a Chapter 11 filing, there are risks in bankruptcy. Consumers may avoid Chrysler cars because of worries about their quality or resale value.

A bankruptcy filing for Chrysler would most likely wipe out existing equity stakeholders, notably Cerberus Capital Management, which took over the carmaker from Daimler in 2007.

Some analysts questioned whether the Treasury’s steps to direct Chrysler to prepare for bankruptcy were an effort to pressure the lenders to come to an agreement outside the courts.

“You have to proceed as if it’s happening, and in doing so, you may avoid it,” said Jeremy Anwyl, a veteran industry analyst and the chief executive of Edmunds.com, a Web site that offers car buying advice.

The Treasury declined to comment. But an administration official who did not want to be named said, “It should surprise no one that the administration is planning on contingencies, but we remain focused on the goal and engaged with all stakeholders to bring Chrysler and Fiat to a working partnership.”

The U.A.W. declined to comment. A Chrysler spokeswoman, Lori McTavish, said, “As we move forward in this process, we believe it’s important to keep all options open.” She added that Chrysler would continue to work through the end of the month, based on direction given by President Obama’s auto task force, “to secure the support of the necessary stakeholders and reach a successful conclusion that the administration and U.S. Treasury deems appropriate.”

The creditors’ claims are backed by most of Chrysler’s collateral, including plants, brands and equipment, and the senior lenders will argue that they have first claim on those assets — even before repayment of the government’s debt.

The government and the creditors have been trading offers, with new ones likely in coming days. The most recent offer, presented Wednesday, would give the company’s lenders about 22 cents on the dollar, or $1.5 billion, and a 5 percent equity stake in a reorganized Chrysler.

This week a steering committee of the lenders proposed that they receive 65 cents on the dollar, or $4.5 billion, and a 40 percent equity stake.

A committee representing Chrysler’s senior lenders is preparing another counteroffer, people briefed on the matter said.

Chief among the creditors’ concerns is that Fiat is being asked to contribute little to a Chrysler alliance, while lenders and the U.A.W. are being asked to make big concessions, this person said.

Yet fissures have emerged within the Chrysler lending group, a collection of roughly 50 banks and hedge funds. The four major banks — JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs — hold about 70 percent of the roughly $7 billion of Chrysler debt, and they favor striking a deal with the government. Many of the hedge funds, however, are calling for a tougher stance.

The Treasury is also working with General Motors to prepare a possible bankruptcy case, and the terms of a Chrysler filing might offer a glimpse into the shape of a G.M. filing.

G.M. faces a June 1 deadline in its own efforts to draft a restructuring plan. The company said on Thursday that it would idle 13 assembly plants in North America to reduce production by 190,000 vehicles from May through July.

Under the most likely assumptions, Treasury will provide the financing that Chrysler needs to operate while under bankruptcy protection. The Canadian government is also expected to participate in backing the company. The Globe and Mail of Toronto reported the Canadian government’s role on Thursday.

Although Chrysler and Fiat have been discussing an out-of-court agreement, a bankruptcy case would allow Fiat to more easily select the Chrysler assets it wants to preserve.

The approach, which relies upon Section 363 of the federal bankruptcy code, is somewhat similar to what the government is planning in the case of G.M. Then, Chrysler could sell or jettison any assets it did not want to keep and cancel franchise agreements with car dealers it considered superfluous.

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Re: U.S. Said to Seek a Chrysler Plan for Bankruptcy
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 09:00:40 PM »
Gm,Ford,and Chrysler should all merge into one company,call it somthing like "american motors" then take the best and most popular products from all three (including worldwide divisions)and build the best cars in the world once again.

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Re: U.S. Said to Seek a Chrysler Plan for Bankruptcy
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 09:03:41 PM »
nah, I like OldsMoFord better ;D

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Re: U.S. Said to Seek a Chrysler Plan for Bankruptcy
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2009, 09:05:25 PM »
Gm,Ford,and Chrysler should all merge into one company,call it somthing like "american motors" then take the best and most popular products from all three (including worldwide divisions)and build the best cars in the world once again.

That would be waaaaayyyy too funny if they merged to form "American Motors"
They could bring back the Rambler, Javelin and even the Pacer....
 
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Re: U.S. Said to Seek a Chrysler Plan for Bankruptcy
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2009, 09:34:30 PM »
I could get me another Gremlin ;D
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Re: U.S. Said to Seek a Chrysler Plan for Bankruptcy
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 09:41:44 PM »
wow, this is getting ridiculous.

I think the next company to release another off the wall piece of sh*t, like say... the Chevy Aveo, should be left to die. if that happens to be the numsculls at Chrysler, then so be it. There are enough Jeeps in the world to last me the rest of my lifetime. after that i couldnt give a care.

the world needs change. 50 years after a nuclear explosion, nature prevails and overgrows everything in its path. Life heals itself. Let the greed bags die, and from their rotting corpses new things will be born.

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Re: U.S. Said to Seek a Chrysler Plan for Bankruptcy
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2009, 07:50:27 AM »
Chevy Aveo 1.6 Ltr = POS
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Re: U.S. Said to Seek a Chrysler Plan for Bankruptcy
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2009, 08:01:41 AM »
I think the next company that releases a "new" vehicle that looks just like all the other "new" vehicles, or is the sixth or so in a certain line (i.e. crossover vehicle) should die. That sillyness needs to stop.
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Re: U.S. Said to Seek a Chrysler Plan for Bankruptcy
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2009, 08:11:25 AM »
This is the latest 'Chrysler Canada' news...

CAW and Chrysler on the verge of labour deal: government, union
at 16:40 on April 23, 2009, EDT.
Kristine Owram, THE CANADIAN PRESS

TORONTO - Talks between Chrysler and the Canadian Auto Workers are progressing and the union and officials in the Canadian and Ontario governments said Thursday a deal was close at hand.



Federal Industry Minister Tony Clement and Ontario Economic Development Minister Michael Bryant both said several steps need to be completed before governments in Canada and the United States will agree to give Chrysler the long-term bailout loans it has requested, but added that one important step - an agreement with the CAW - seemed to be near.



The Globe and Mail's online edition reported the two parties were within $1 to $2 of cutting labour costs by the $19 an hour that Chrysler had said was necessary to stay competitive as of late Thursday morning. A CAW spokesman could not confirm the report.



This would represent a significant reversal for the CAW, which had previously insisted it would stick to the pattern established in an earlier agreement with General Motors, which cut that company's labour costs by about $7 an hour.



Bryant said he spoke Thursday morning with both CAW president Ken Lewenza and management at Chrysler.



"I left the conversations with labour and management with the sense that they were closer to an agreement on cost savings, closer to an agreement on the viability of the company," Bryant said.



Rick Laporte, president of CAW Local 444 in Windsor, Ont., where Chrysler operates a minivan plant, told a Windsor, Ont., radio station that the two sides are very close to reaching a deal.



"Both sides continue to work away at trying to reach an agreement and I think, I'm hopeful that we'll get there by the end of today," Laporte said Thursday afternoon.



Chrysler has been given to the end of April to reach deals with its unions in Canada and the U.S., to cement a potentially life-saving alliance with Fiat and to provide governments with an acceptable restructuring plan.



Fiat CEO Sergio Marchionne has said he would walk away from a technology-sharing deal with Chrysler if it couldn't reduce its labour costs to a competitive level, but he said Thursday the Italian automaker has an "unwavering commitment" to the proposed alliance.



Without this, the company won't receive long-term government aid and will likely be forced to file for bankruptcy protection or even liquidate its assets.



The New York Times reported Thursday that the U.S. Treasury Department is preparing a Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing for Chrysler that could come as soon as next week.



The report said the Treasury has an agreement in principle with the United Auto Workers that would protect retirees' pensions and benefits, and Fiat will complete its alliance while Chrysler is under court protection.



However, a deal has not yet been reached with Chrysler's lenders.



Bryant said the government will be asked to provide loans to Chrysler and GM even if one or both files for bankruptcy protection.



"In the event there was a filing, receivership protection, they would need dollars to keep the operations going, not unlike the bridge loans that have been provided by the governments to date," Bryant said.



"Because the financing is very difficult to get in the current circumstances, inevitably they'd be turning to the government for that assistance, by which I mean the U.S. government and the Canadian government."



Clement said "it's pretty clear" the banks won't finance Chrysler's operations if it does file for bankruptcy protection and the government will likely have to step up.



"That is a bridge that we have not crossed yet, but we are looking at all the permutations and combinations," Clement said.



Both ministers denied reports that federal and provincial officials could provide as much as US$6 billion to see the two companies through the early stages of bankruptcy protection.



"The range has not been determined as to exactly what would be needed. We'd have to have specific discussions," Bryant said.



Clement said providing support in the event of a bankruptcy filing is one of many options being considered by the government, but he called the $6-billion figure "a very speculative number."


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Re: U.S. Said to Seek a Chrysler Plan for Bankruptcy
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2009, 12:33:20 PM »
heh 'american motors' with half its production coming from Canada and Mexico.....

i'm waiting to get me a Chevota, or a Hondolet. or a Nissord or a Jeepuki or a dodgedai?

i sure hope Chrysler wins and the CAW concedes
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