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Offline Knox

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Clutch / Release Bearing Replacement
« on: May 23, 2010, 08:14:04 PM »
Hey all,

Lately I've been having a sqeeking noise if I hold the clutch in, neutral is fine, but when the clutch is depressed the squeek gets louder and louder for a few seconds then it just caps out at that level.

at first a belt came to mind, but I'm thinking more likely a bearing? However I really have no idea what I'm doing yet... hah

any ideas?
« Last Edit: October 07, 2010, 11:16:22 PM by Knox »
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Re: noisy clutch?
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2010, 09:32:46 PM »
Sounds like the release bearing.

May as well get a whole new clutch kit since you have to pull the transmission anyways...

Unless you have more time then money...
it's actually not that hard
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Re: noisy clutch?
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2010, 09:17:52 AM »

agreed

you can do it on your own in a weekend taking your time

Sounds like the release bearing.

May as well get a whole new clutch kit since you have to pull the transmission anyways...

Unless you have more time then money...
it's actually not that hard
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Re: noisy clutch?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2010, 07:42:18 PM »
I've been looking online about how to change this out, and I don't own ramps/jackstands/transmission jack etc.
I'm also not familiar with much of this yet.

anyone willing to help me with this swap for something?
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Offline Rubi03 jef

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Re: noisy clutch?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2010, 09:05:16 PM »
i would love to help but i leave for winnipeg tomorrow

i did mine when mine was stock     start with removing your battery cables

remove your shifter boot and your shifter as well
removed your rear drive shaft
then places a jack stand under the out put shaft of the Tcase
removed the skid plate
then removed my front drive shaft
i used a quad jack and placed it under the transmission but as close to the Tcase as posible
then i removed the started
then remove the slave cylender
disconnect your tcase linkage
now to reach the 2 upper bolts of the bell houseing  you want to lower the tcase and trans a bit and unplug all the wiring i used about 4 feet of extensions to reach these bolts from the rear of the tcase thats how i was able to see the 2 upper bolts on the bellhousing  ... there reverse torques
undo those
then un bolted the 4 lower bolts on the bell housing
slid the trans and tcase back a few feet

now you can change your bearing in the belhousing and the clutch if you are doing both

i would since its pretty cheap to do and its a pain in the arse to this all twice

now for installation i personaly just crawl under the truck and pull the tranny and tcase onto my chest and lift it up a bit and align it all up and then i place a jack stand under the tcase so it holds it in place when i fight with the lower bolts
then the uppers

but i know if you split the tcase from the tranny it would be soooooooooooooooooooooo much lighter and most likely easyier to align it all up



hope that helps ..im sure other people have better ways of doing it

i also did mine in my drive way in january it F ing sucked
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Re: noisy clutch?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2010, 11:46:51 AM »
so... guess it's time to finally fix this :P starting acting up again this morning, where are the "better" places /brands to get a replacement release bearing, and while I'm in there a new clutch...
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Re: Old Post followup: Release Bearing Replacement
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2010, 01:35:48 PM »
I wanted to reply here for all to see instead of replying to your message,

I was never into the whole, "Dual Force Triple Friction Quadruple Gold Special".... I've never had a clutch slip on me so I don't think I really need to "upgrade" the system.

I would suggest a LUK brand cluth, available from King-O-Matic here in Calgary. It is an OEM replacement and is reasonably priced, comes with allignment tool, new pilot/release bearing etc.

Joey

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Re: Old Post followup: Release Bearing Replacement
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2010, 01:37:59 PM »
Thanks for the quick reply Joey, I'll check that one out
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Re: Old Post followup: Release Bearing Replacement
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2010, 01:44:32 PM »


when i did mine steve i used the cheap one from Autovalue (well their only one, not sure their brand)  it included the pressure plate, clutch plate, pilot bearing, new slave cylinder and an allignment too.
i think it was just under 300$ tax in.............. 
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Re: Old Post followup: Release Bearing Replacement
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2010, 02:07:54 PM »
If I run into issues I may send you a message Johnny, I have lots of beer and a phone with speed-dial for pizza delivery :P
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Re: Old Post followup: Release Bearing Replacement
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 02:16:46 PM »
as long as its in your garage with your tools i'll be over :)
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Re: Old Post followup: Release Bearing Replacement
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2010, 05:06:53 PM »
I did mine last fall.  It was definitely the most all encompassing job I have done on my Jeep so far.  It wasn't that hard,  Just lots of take apart and put back together.  I couldn't find a Luk here in Lethbridge, so I called King o Matic.  They wouldn't sell to me, but I asked who in Lethbridge they dealt with and bought my clutch from a local transmission place.  I think I paid $250 something for it.  It was the same price as the Auto Value one, Sachs I believe,  here in town.  I did it almost completely by myself in about 15 +/- hrs.  I did have help with a set of hands to get at the bolts holding the tranny to the bellhousing as well as some extra muscle to get the tranny out and back in.  I borrowed a tranny jack from a friend and after alot of cuss words I went down to Princess Auto and got a pilot bearing puller for $21.  I had tried the grease and dowel/bolt trick to get it out, but just made a mess.  I definitely had lots of downtime during my working hours. :D

If I can do a clutch, anyone with a little mechanical ability can do it.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2010, 05:10:22 PM by RckyMtnTJ »
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Re: Old Post followup: Release Bearing Replacement
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2010, 05:36:59 PM »
Yeah they definitely weren't willing to sell to me.

Told me to get lost :( if I wasn't with a shop

So...
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Re: Old Post followup: Release Bearing Replacement
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2010, 06:19:28 PM »
Yeah they definitely weren't willing to sell to me.

Told me to get lost :( if I wasn't with a shop

So...
Odd, since at http://www.kingomatic.com/right_to_repair, they clearly "support" right to repair, but then *THEY* thwart us :)  I understand that they are wholesalers, but I do find it a bit contradictory.
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Re: Old Post followup: Release Bearing Replacement
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2010, 11:15:20 PM »
so yep, picked up a clutch kit tonight, (Sachs from AutoValue, ~$260 if anyone is wondering) need to go to a diff auto value for the master cylinder though (stock seems pretty random)

I like Johnnys idea of replacing the master and slave before I attempt to remove the transmission. That will fix the push rod coming out of the firewall issue, but the release bearing will likely still be an issue... Been reading through a Haynes Repair manual and that doesn't look like its a fun task to remove the tranny... I will need to borrow a scissor jack or something if it comes to that apparently. :/

Anyone have more tips/tricks for this task?
« Last Edit: October 07, 2010, 11:19:46 PM by Knox »
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