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Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« on: December 21, 2011, 09:51:29 AM »
So I'm getting closer to being able to swap in the 4:10 Dana 30/35 into my rig.  This week I hope to get one more step completed, that being installing new drums and shoes onto the Dana 35.  I have a Haynes manual which I will be following, however I have a few questions;
1) Do I NEED a brake tool set, or can I manage with pliers, screwdrivers, etc?
2) What parts can I reuse and what parts should I replace, ei return springs, self-adjusters, wheel cylinder pin, etc?
3) Should I remove the backing plate so I can really get everything cleaned up, or is this just an extra step that may cause more headache then its worth?

Thanks for the advice
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 10:12:34 AM »
your gonna need a good spring removal tool...

and a set of side cutters for the springs ... u wanna bite into them abit not cut them best thing i have found for it...grab abit back from where they are hooked up pull off(hopefully)

if it comes off fine its fine if its being a pitty might be easier to buy springs and replace...

leave one side doen up so u have something to compare to...

make sure u get shoes in right place and re adjust to new drums.....easiet with a big flat blade

check wheel cylinders for wetness...a good curved pick works great for pulling boots back but try not to damage boot... if u suspect any leakage replace wheel cylinder or cylinders(there cheap and its cheaper then having them leak and take out your new shoes)... there pretty simple just need to bleed rear brakes after and your gonan have to with the new axle install anyway

its been awhile since i have been ina drum of a d35 cant remeber how the ebrake works but make sure u adjust it right will save u a seized cable down the road

a couple cans of good brake clean a rag some small wire brushes and u should be good i wouldnt remove the backing plate more rusted bolts u probally dont wanna deal with..

if your not changing drums take some sand paper and score the old ones up all the way around same with pads it helps set them nice..  like a dusting not goign HEMAN style on them

theres more its just not popping into my head right now
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2011, 10:36:24 AM »
I worked on the drums on my D35 twice, one without a spring removal tool and the other with one and definitely get one.  I got mine for $10 or something from princess auto or something.

Also Crappy Tire has shoes that come with a 3 year warranty and it is worth getting them because mud just eats brake shoes.  Keep you receipt and get them warrantied after a couple years
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2011, 10:42:03 AM »
Quote from: BlackYJ on December 21, 2011, 10:36:24 AM
I worked on the drums on my D35 twice, one without a spring removal tool and the other with one and definitely get one.  I got mine for $10 or something from princess auto or something.

Also Crappy Tire has shoes that come with a 3 year warranty and it is worth getting them because mud just eats brake shoes.  Keep you receipt and get them warrantied after a couple years
Will do on the spring tool and I got my shoes from Part Source (subsidiary of CT) came with a 3 year warranty as well!
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2011, 10:48:34 AM »
All of the above plus:

1) buy a spring kit along with your shoes and drums, the local parts may stock them,if not, Napa does.
2) just replace the wheel cylinder, they are cheap.
3) do not remove the backing plate, they are very hard to get straight if you bend it.
4) nice to have the brake tools but needle nose vice grips work well.
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2011, 12:05:56 PM »
Don't forget Brake Clean, hose it all down before and after you finish all the work so everything is nice, squeaky clean & dry. You might also want to check the axle seals and bearings while your in there.
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2011, 03:12:05 PM »
Great thanks all!  Hit up Part Source and got what I needed! Should be a Very Merry Christmas, as I hope to have time to get as much complete as possible.
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2011, 05:53:56 PM »
PLEASE if your not sure about brakes, get help. If you tune up your jeep and it won't start or run, no one dies. I don't have anything against people taking pride and learning about their jeeps, but a brake job gone bad can result in an accident. The group here is great about lending a hand, pm me if you need help. There are a few tools that make drum brakes a snap. Buy everything g new, it's not expensive and no one dies. A spring hardware kit is only about $15.
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2011, 05:58:56 PM »
Do one side at a time and use the other for a reference and I agree, pick up a hardware kit.
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2011, 09:41:58 PM »
Quote from: Vinman on December 21, 2011, 05:58:56 PM
Do one side at a time and use the other for a reference and I agree, pick up a hardware kit.

This is how I did mine.  I got the tool from Princess Auto.  Take your time.  It's pretty easy.
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2011, 10:08:42 PM »
The first time you do drums it's frustrating. But it becomes kinda fun down the road. Spring removal tool not needed but worth it if you are going to do drums more than once. Also mine is a installer on the other side which makes it really handy. Got it at p auto for 7 bucks on sale ( I'm really cheap so I'm proud of that). Also make sure you put the shoes on the right side one side is longer than the other use the other side as reference or use a digital camera.  Also flush your brake fluid at the same time (I just gravity bleed while doing brakes saves time and money down the road an brake fluid is like 8 bucks also check wheel cylinders.  If there leaking replace them at. 11 something a piece it just doesn't make sence replacing seals and such.  And last if your brake lines brake as you are removing old wheel cyl. Just go pick up a straight pre flared line at crappy tire I got 1 from 64 ave at 5 dollars I just bent it to shape by hand.

Hope this helps if you need a hand pm me I'm on parental leave so free pretty much all the time
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2011, 08:08:51 AM »
Quote from: BUKI on December 21, 2011, 10:08:42 PM
The first time you do drums it's frustrating. But it becomes kinda fun down the road. Spring removal tool not needed but worth it if you are going to do drums more than once. Also mine is a installer on the other side which makes it really handy. Got it at p auto for 7 bucks on sale ( I'm really cheap so I'm proud of that). Also make sure you put the shoes on the right side one side is longer than the other use the other side as reference or use a digital camera.  Also flush your brake fluid at the same time (I just gravity bleed while doing brakes saves time and money down the road an brake fluid is like 8 bucks also check wheel cylinders.  If there leaking replace them at. 11 something a piece it just doesn't make sence replacing seals and such.  And last if your brake lines brake as you are removing old wheel cyl. Just go pick up a straight pre flared line at crappy tire I got 1 from 64 ave at 5 dollars I just bent it to shape by hand.

Hope this helps if you need a hand pm me I'm on parental leave so free pretty much all the time

Parental leave eh buki?  Stacey and I are about a month away for our second.  Congrats man!
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2011, 07:22:28 AM »
Thank you sir. He's Alot o fun
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2011, 10:12:54 AM »
have you considered going to disc brakes?  i would imagine discs off a ZJ would bolt right up.....
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Re: Drum Brake Service - Dana 35
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2011, 12:05:28 PM »
I have actually, but have yet to find the time to research it. Is it actually a "bolt-on" upgrade?
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