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Offline Vinman

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Any electric motor wizards out there?
« on: February 02, 2012, 01:56:34 PM »
I have 2 identical General table saws with single phase , 110V 2HP motors.

One saw works fine but the other one has no power. The motor runs nice and smooth but as soon as I start cutting it slows right down and will cut-out.

The only thing I know about electric motors is they run on smoke once the it leaks out, it's done. :o

Any ideas on what the problem is?

Vince
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Offline cLAY

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Re: Any electric motor wizards out there?
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 05:20:25 PM »
Its been awhile since I worked on that stuff but there are two sets on windings in the motor. A low speed set to get the motor running and a high speed set for running speed.

There is a centrifugal switch that once the motor reaches a certain RPM it switches over to the high speed windings. It could be that the switch is stuck. You will have to remove the motor, tear it down and clean it out, figure out the switch, clean and lube it.

Often the motors in table saws would get packed with saw dust and cause the switch is get stuck in one position or another.

Warning!!!! There is a capacitor attached to it that will give a nasty jolt! It will most likely in a "hump" attached to the outside of the case. Remove the cover from it then carefully without touching the terminals with your fingers lay a screwdriver across the terminals to discharge the capacitor. Once that is done you can safely unhook the terminals and remove the capacitor and work on the motor.

Also check that the motor is wired up correctly for 110V.  You can compare to the other one.  Some motors can be wired for 110V or 220V. If someone wired it for 220V and you hooked it only to 110V that would cause some problems. Usually the motor will have a decal or plate stating 110/220 if its a dual voltage motor.
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Offline Vinman

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Re: Any electric motor wizards out there?
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 08:07:52 PM »
Thanks Clay.
And a bigger thanks for the heads-up for the capacitor :o, I did have the "hump" cover off already and blew it out but didn't touch the terminals.

I will attack this thing on the weekend and check the wiring (although I got the saw from a buddy and it did work good until recently).

Thanks again,

Vince
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Offline AstraX

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Re: Any electric motor wizards out there?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 12:11:57 AM »
the only way to truely have respect for those caps is to actually touch one though...you should do it and let us know how it is...   ;D

Do it in the morning...you wont need coffee all day.

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Re: Any electric motor wizards out there?
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 05:51:21 AM »
the only way to truely have respect for those caps is to actually touch one though...you should do it and let us know how it is...   ;D

Do it in the morning...you wont need coffee all day.

Maybe I'll carefully remove it with discharging and just leave it on the bench in the garage, eventually somebody will pick it up ;D
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