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Offline specialk

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Second of the question of the series :-)   Let the know it all's spout!
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Good quality parts, no shortcuts.

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not letting johnny in your shop!  :o

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not letting johnny in your shop!  :o

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ZJ hate. its too bad........ 

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'do it right; do it once' is a stupid statement because it always varies. and thats why i hate it.

people say it to justify long arms over short arms, Claytons over rough country, Toyos over procomp.  is a radius arm setup doing it 'right' over short arms?

is it 'right' to have a 5k lift kit, but stock 3.07 gears in your D30/35?  

Do it right; do it once.... i think its thrown around so much (jeep forum especially) cause there is no answer to it.
 
example. is frasers ZJ done right because he has long arms and i have rough country?  or is mine done right because i have a rear 8.8 and he has a crap D44a?

or are both done wrong because they don't have coil overs and 42s.......... (i agree with the third)


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Offline cLAY

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I don't like that saying either as it implies an unlimited budget. Yes you might plan to run 35s one day but that doesn't mean you should slap a 6" radius arm kit onto your rig. There is great wisdom in building a rig as your funds AND skills allow.

By"skills" I not only mean your mechanical skills but more importantly your driving skills. I think most of us have seen what a Rubi is capable of(or not) in inexperienced hands.

Sometimes the process is more valuable than the end result.

How many times have you seen someone blow thousands of dollars rebuilding a motor because "they want it done right" just to sell the rig a year or two later and take a big hit. They could have just as easily bought a low mileage used motor for a fraction of the price.

*Please note I am NOT referring to anyone specifically here. If you think I am then take your paranoia somewhere else
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Both are doing it wrong. It is Clayton over rough country, or Toyo over pro comp, etc etc. you start with cheap parts and you will have problems down the line. Yay, you just bolted on cheap long arm kit, still going to perform like crap. The people that do it proper the first time spend more but have fewer headaches down the road. Which means less stress and more happiness on the trails instead of on jack stands. ::)
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Offline jeepgrl

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not letting johnny in your shop!  :o

Or Anton for that matter...

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Offline TL-Iguana

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Do it right, do it once... Is this why Kevin has 2 kids, and Knox only one?

 :o


 ???

Sorry loren, we still love ya ;) even if your parents might not....... ;)


I guess it also goes to show ya Kev, you should have just bought that MJ first... instead of the TJ.........
I did a Google search for "hot trannies" but nothing came up about oil coolers  :o

Worrying too much about mpg with a Jeep is similar to worrying about your sister's virginity. An ok thing to be concerned about but...

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Offline Knox

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Do it right, do it once... Is this why Kevin has 2 kids, and Knox only one?

lol

I was happy with my cheap lift untill it started sagging on one side, so I ordered new springs. Will it sag again, probably. But whats the fun in doing something once?
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Offline jkrubi

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I always figure that it means to buy the best parts that you can afford right now to make it do what you want it to!   In 2 years you may want something different, and you'll start all over again buying parts to make it do what you want then!

The best parts in the world still wear out eventually and you'll be replacing them.  Knowledge comes with experience, so you'll know what you want a bit more later on down the road, how many of your rigs are still the same from when you started modding them? 

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To me the "do it once do it right" means don't half arse something... spend the time to do it right.  If you're putting on wheel spacers... take the time to retorque the damn things after 50-100Km.  If you are installing new gears... doing things by feel is NOT good enough. Two bolts to hold your winch on is NOT good enough no matter how hard it is to get the last 2 bolts.   I'm all for redneck ingenuity to get yourself out of the bush... but when you're working on your crap in the garage... take some time/pride in what you are doing so it doesn't become a huge problem later on. It doesn't matter what the brand or type of parts you are installing ... just make sure you do it right without cutting corners or it will come back to bite you in the arse.  Even if that means waiting an extra day or 2 to get the right tool/new part for the job.

I go through a lot of jeeps and its pretty amazing what some people consider "good enough" when installing or repairing things!
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To me, it means waiting a little longer and savin a few more dollars to buy a part that built to last, not a part that is built to a price point. It doesn't mean that you need to build your rig to be massive from the get-go. Take a look at some of the truly well thought out and well built rigs that we've all wheeled with. There's nothing wrong with wheeling on 33's - just build your rig to run those 33's reliably and well. Personally, I'd rather have a properly built rig on 33's and never go any bigger (and occasionally winch through something or take a bypass) than have a bogger-built POS on 37's that only makes one wheeling trip in six because it's always broken.

There's nothing wrong with (Fraser I'm going to pick on you) upgrading to a long arm suspension and leaving your craptacular stock axles in place...if you're on 33's and you wheel in a manner that doesn't bend axles and snap axle shafts. There's nothing wrong with the long arm upgrade itself - there's only something wrong if you cheap out on the long arm so that you can also spend a little bit of money on an axle "upgrade" that isn't going to last either.

To me, "Do it once, do it right" means that you won't convince yourself that a half-arsed el-cheapo JB-weld upgrade is worth doing....you'll keep the stock parts in place until you have saved the money to upgrade them properly. It doesn't mean that you can't wheel until your rig is bombproof - it just means that you should wheel in a way that is realistic based on the limitations of your rig. Skinny pedal, wheel hop, "Just a little bit more bump", and the "Jeep Dance" are all great when used by folks that have "done it once, done it right".
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Offline The Machinist

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I'm all for redneck ingenuity to get yourself out of the bush

...or in Kevins case to wheel for another day or two.   ;D

It is what it says, whatever parts you are putting in your jeep do it once and get it right.  I don't know if I've ever done that, for me it's "Do it three times; do it right".
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