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We Shall call u "FRAKEN-COMPRESSOR"
« on: November 06, 2012, 12:28:34 PM »


yes that is a 15hp electric motor....

stand built... with room for onemore motor


finished product... yes we do everything big at emf

and yes that is 3 phase power going to it....




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Re: We Shall call u "FRAKEN-COMPRESSOR"
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2012, 12:39:41 PM »
here is mikes very accurate description...

"15hp, part winding wye to wye to delta start. Runs 16amp, with only 17.6 inrush. Kickin it old school pre VFD with a 12 lead motor! The lights don't dim"

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Re: We Shall call u "FRAKEN-COMPRESSOR"
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2012, 12:49:34 PM »
if you do end up going with a VFD I can program the parameters for ya :D

Yaskawa makes great inverters ;)

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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2012, 01:02:50 PM »
if you do end up going with a VFD I can program the parameters for ya :D

Yaskawa makes great inverters ;)

Did they get blanket CSA? Or do you still need to get em tagged?

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Re: We Shall call u "FRAKEN-COMPRESSOR"
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2012, 04:06:33 PM »
thats language mike understands....  he has his electrical engineering he does things with wires we dont wanna talk about lol.... works great and air conditions the shop to lol 20 psi in abotu 20 seconds

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Re: We Shall call u "FRAKEN-COMPRESSOR"
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2012, 05:19:29 PM »
When our new shop compressor arrives in December, I'll try to post some pics. Power is 440 volt, 135 amps, 3 phase.Output is 145 CFM....at 5000 psi.
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Re: We Shall call u "FRAKEN-COMPRESSOR"
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2012, 05:38:51 PM »
thats awesome... but ours cost under a grand all said and one..... wait till we add the second tank and second motor...

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Re: We Shall call u "FRAKEN-COMPRESSOR"
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2012, 05:49:37 PM »
When our new shop compressor arrives in December, I'll try to post some pics. Power is 440 volt, 135 amps, 3 phase.Output is 145 CFM....at 5000 psi.

440 Volt ? European motor or do you mean 480

North American voltages are

Single Phase 120/240
Three Phase 120/208 , 277/480
Three Phase mostly Canada only 347/600

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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2012, 06:02:17 PM »
440 Volt ? European motor or do you mean 480

North American voltages are

Single Phase 120/240
Three Phase 120/208 , 277/480
Three Phase mostly Canada only 347/600

It's pretty common, you see a lot of transformers with a secondary voltage of 440. There also isn't 3phase 120, 277 or 347.

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Re: We Shall call u "FRAKEN-COMPRESSOR"
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2012, 06:48:34 PM »
440 Volt ? European motor or do you mean 480

North American voltages are

Single Phase 120/240
Three Phase 120/208 , 277/480
Three Phase mostly Canada only 347/600



It may actually be a Euro motor....it's produced by a German company....but you may also be correct that it's a 480 volt. I'll have to double check.

thats awesome... but ours cost under a grand all said and one..... wait till we add the second tank and second motor...

Yeah....our won't be coming under the 1K mark. Or the 100K mark. I guess that's to be expected when you want it to generate that sort of pressure.
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Re: We Shall call u "FRAKEN-COMPRESSOR"
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2012, 07:03:46 PM »
It may actually be a Euro motor....it's produced by a German company....but you may also be correct that it's a 480 volt. I'll have to double check.

Itll be 440v if its German.

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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2012, 07:52:14 PM »
It's pretty common, you see a lot of transformers with a secondary voltage of 440. There also isn't 3phase 120, 277 or 347.

In 20 years on service truck I've only seen one and it was a custom order (3 month delivery) for Trans Canada Turbines for their Rolls Royce Test equipment doubt you will find a 480 volt secondary Transformer in stock anywhere ( we couldn't )
I'll give you the 120 volt but you won't find 277 or 347 unless its fed from three phase

It may actually be a Euro motor....it's produced by a German company....but you may also be correct that it's a 480 volt. I'll have to double check.

Yeah....our won't be coming under the 1K mark. Or the 100K mark. I guess that's to be expected when you want it to generate that sort of pressure.

Roto screw unit ??

Itll be 440v if its German.

If its a 440 volt Euro motor it will be 50Hz we have 60Hz here so they will have to use a vfd frequency locked to limit the output to 50Hz because at 60Hz the motor the motor will spin to fast and probable exceed the rpm rating of the pump .
Looks like it should be a 125 Hp motor
More likely it will have a North American 480 volt motor  less hassle to ship the compressor to the local distributor and have them source and fit an approved motor locally

(Hey I learned how to multi quote  ;D )
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Re: Re: We Shall call u "FRAKEN-COMPRESSOR"
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2012, 08:16:17 PM »
Actually it'll be a 50/60 or a 60. Meaning it'll be 400v at 50hz and 440v at 60hz or just 440v at 60hz. I install this type of equipment all day long ;)

Show me a 277v or a 347v 3 phase load, you won't be able too unless its fed by a custom transformer, which will never happen, sorry but your wrong. I have a 480/460, a 480/440 and a 600/440 transformer sitting my yard, all from Brews here in town, again your wrong, anything else you wanna argue about?

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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2012, 08:40:01 PM »
Roto screw unit ??

If its a 440 volt Euro motor it will be 50Hz we have 60Hz here so they will have to use a vfd frequency locked to limit the output to 50Hz because at 60Hz the motor the motor will spin to fast and probable exceed the rpm rating of the pump .
Looks like it should be a 125 Hp motor
More likely it will have a North American 480 volt motor  less hassle to ship the compressor to the local distributor and have them source and fit an approved motor locally

(Hey I learned how to multi quote  ;D )

Five stage reciprocating. We actually get our screw units from an american manufacturer - they run around 65 amps each, but we run 'em in pairs.

It's entirely possible that it's a 480 volt motor on the recip. I know for a fact that it's engineered in Germany and I'm pretty sure that the block is made there and probably assembled there - but it distributed through their US headquarters in Virginia....so I know I'd bolt up a US sourced 480V motor if I was in their shoes.  Like I said, I don't have the specs in front of me, and while I got my say in what we're buying for capacity I don't do much purchasing.
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Re: We Shall call u "FRAKEN-COMPRESSOR"
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2012, 08:49:29 PM »
Pfft!! Its only got one lung! And why would you need a 2nd motor mounted on there?

Here's what I run in my garage for filling tires. 220V single phase, 3hp motor with magnetic switch.



Cost me $250. Buddy wanted to sell it and get a smaller one because it was too big for his garage. Used to be an old refrigeration unit and then did 20+yrs at a commercial auto repair shop. Still going strong. Runs slow compared to today's compressors but still pumps up fast.
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