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Offline dubbleJs

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c8.25 to xj D44 swap - brake questions
« on: September 14, 2013, 03:49:19 PM »
Hey guys, Im just in the middle of swapping in a xj dana44 into my '98 XJ. I had the c8.25 before and the brake junction bolt is much bigger than the brake bolt needed for the d44. I know the breather fitting is also in a different location on the d44 but that should be fine as I am also installing an RE steel braided line with I am at this, and not trying to reuse the 8.25 brake junction and bolt.

 

My question is can I just use any 1/4" thread shank bolt to hold down the block on the brake junction? Will that small of a bolt in the large hole on the braided line be ok?

 

As you can see in the pics, the c8.25 bolt is about 3/8" bolt shank, and the hole on the d44 is about 1/4".

 

 The dana44, you can see the new steel braided line I am also installing now


 

 

The c8.25 with the bigger bolt and breather integrated into it:




 

 

 I also need to run all new hard lines as the 8.25 ones were junk and seized at the drum. Im guessing I will just measure them out and a parts store can supply them with the ends fitted on the lines?



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Re: c8.25 to xj D44 swap - brake questions
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2013, 11:26:24 AM »
You can use a short bolt with a washer on it as long as you can get it tight. No issues with the slop in the hole.

You can buy premade lengths of brake line but they won't the exact length, they will be too long. You can either coil up the excess behind the backing plate or(much better/cleaner option), buy a brake flare kit(around $50-$70 from PA or CT). Then buy the premade lines, cut them to length and then reflare the ends and reuse the fittings. Practice a couple of flares on the cut off piece to get the hang of it. You WILL mess up the first couple of times.

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Re: c8.25 to xj D44 swap - brake questions
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2013, 11:52:46 AM »
I have a flare kit you can borrow. Am in the nw. Are the brake lines you need metric or standard. Will pm no.

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Re: c8.25 to xj D44 swap - brake questions
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2013, 06:27:43 PM »
You can use a short bolt with a washer on it as long as you can get it tight. No issues with the slop in the hole.

You can buy premade lengths of brake line but they won't the exact length, they will be too long. You can either coil up the excess behind the backing plate or(much better/cleaner option), buy a brake flare kit(around $50-$70 from PA or CT). Then buy the premade lines, cut them to length and then reflare the ends and reuse the fittings. Practice a couple of flares on the cut off piece to get the hang of it. You WILL mess up the first couple of times.

Right on thanks man. I picked up some lines at auto value and am going to see where the lengths end up after I get them all bent. Probably a couple inches too long but I think ill wait to do the cut&flare when I do the disc conversion...hopefully that's sooner than later!



I have a flare kit you can borrow. Am in the nw. Are the brake lines you need metric or standard. Will pm no.

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Re: c8.25 to xj D44 swap - brake questions
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2013, 10:18:11 AM »
Hey we have your disc brake conversion sitting here at the shop already and waiting for you!  :)

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Re: c8.25 to xj D44 swap - brake questions
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2013, 10:24:55 PM »
Have an 8.8 disc conversion and backing plates all ready to go also. I think I'm just gonna go with drums, if you're lookin to trade!
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