Author Topic: FJ Cruiser (Read 19315 times)

SteveO · « **Reply #45 on:** October 04, 2006, 11:02:58 AM »

Quote from: "gsxtacy"

i think my jeep will kick the nutz off of any toyota,

That's the stupidest thing I've ever read but it would make for an interesting (embarrassing) day on the trails though.

I don't think those numbers are unrealistic for a 4cyl. 4000RPM is not high at all. Obviously you don't run it there all the time but when you need the power it's just a pedal push away.

gsxtacy · « **Reply #46 on:** October 04, 2006, 07:35:11 PM »

whatever, i don't care anymore, just drop it, toyota will always be the afterrunner of the jeep.

jeep came first, remember.

SteveO · « **Reply #47 on:** October 04, 2006, 08:35:29 PM »

Quote from: "gsxtacy"

whatever, i don't care anymore, just drop it, toyota will always be the afterrunner of the jeep.

jeep came first, remember.

You can't say something that stupid and walk away without backing it up. You said your Jeep would "kick the nutz off of any Toyota" so I would like to see how that would work. I'd be more than willing to spend a day at Waiporous on the trail of your choice just to see that happen.

gsxtacy · « **Reply #48 on:** October 04, 2006, 08:38:19 PM »

which toyota?

SteveO · « **Reply #49 on:** October 04, 2006, 08:42:43 PM »

Quote from: "gsxtacy"

which toyota?

Well since the FJ's apart right now and I don't drive it in the winter I would take the Tacoma.

gsxtacy · « **Reply #50 on:** October 04, 2006, 08:44:44 PM »

sure, i don't care, although, i don't have very much time right now...holding up a 4.0 gpa is hard work.

Asia · « **Reply #51 on:** October 04, 2006, 09:11:53 PM »

Quote from: "SteveO"

Quote from: "gsxtacy"
whatever, i don't care anymore, just drop it, toyota will always be the afterrunner of the jeep.

jeep came first, remember.

You can't say something that stupid and walk away without backing it up. You said your Jeep would "kick the nutz off of any Toyota" so I would like to see how that would work. I'd be more than willing to spend a day at Waiporous on the trail of your choice just to see that happen.

Steve, I would suggest a day @ McLean, Waiparous doesn't have much to offer in terms of obstacles/challenges since the SRD :twisted: neutered the place. McLean has lots of tough trails/climbs :wink:

SteveO · « **Reply #52 on:** October 05, 2006, 12:14:38 PM »

Quote from: "Asia"

McLean has lots of tough trails/climbs :wink:

This would be a fun one to start off on the way up the backside of Top of the World. :wink:

yjcanibul · « **Reply #53 on:** October 05, 2006, 12:39:39 PM »

well I ought to know better than to stay outta stuff and hopefully my comments are NOT vietnam all over agin :lol: .. but it just so happens I was out to wiaprious with a friend from work (in nov '01 I think) with a tacoma , it was about Nov with little to no snow but ice here and there, on an icy incline ( mockingbird trail ) he made it up and I didnt without a tug ... :oops: ... didnt really bother me nor should it cause I figure since I owned my jeep I've be dragged a couple of miles on skidders ... stuck is a fact of life ...

on any given day one vehicle may outperform another ... others have amazed me with what their vehicle can do and occasionally I get a comment I did remarkly well also .... always having fun regardless ...

in the pic above the jeep has a clear advantage in my opinion cause of the shorter wheelbase and breakover , on the wiaprious trip above the tacoma with longer wheelbase did better "maybe" cause of longer wheelbase and maybe cause it was an auto ... and the trd package has a locker ( I didnt at the time ) .... am sure on a different trail on a different day I would have gladly given the tacoma a tug ...

its all apples/oranges ... if the vehicles are identical then its the driver that makes the difference, on any given piece of terrain wheelbase, std vs automative, locker vs open, lift / tires and occasional luck make the difference ...

toyota make a good vehicle, jeep makes a good vehicle - wheel 'em and have fun ...

SteveO · « **Reply #54 on:** October 05, 2006, 12:51:02 PM »

Quote from: "yjcanibul"

in the pic above the jeep has a clear advantage in my opinion cause of the shorter wheelbase and breakover , on the incident above the tacoma with longer wheelbase did better cause of longer wheelbase and maybe cause it was an auto ... and the trd package has a locker ( I didnt at the time ) ....

I agree with you that each vehicle has it's strengths and weaknesses due to design.

Actually though, the Jeep in the above pic didn't make it up. In fact, only one rig did. You can make it out in the picture from halfway up the step. :shock:

I'm certainly not saying a Toyota will out-wheel a Jeep in every case and nor would a Jeep beat a Toy all the time. I've spent my share of time on the recieving end of a tow strap with a Jeep at the working end. I've also pulled my share out as well. It's part of working together and having fun with the guys you're with.

There isn't anyone I've wheeled with that I enjoy more than the CJA group. The best times I've had in my truck were always with Jeepers and I will continue to wheel with them every chance I get even though my breeding patterns have kept me home more than I would like for the last couple years. Once my girls are old enough to wheel they'll be out with me and hopefully back to the once a week trip to the mountains with "The Jeeps". Jeepers like Joey, Joel, Tom, Allen, Bill, Fragz, Ian, Vince and a few others are the reason I love wheeling so much.

yjcanibul · « **Reply #55 on:** October 05, 2006, 12:54:42 PM »

its like a flashback for me ... tacoma's are awesome climbers !

Spinalguy · « **Reply #56 on:** October 16, 2006, 10:33:36 AM »

Just got back from Moab.
i ran into two separate grooups of the new Cruiser.

First, i think they are ugly with white roofs and stupid tail lights but...............

THEY CAN FRICKIN WHEEL!!!!!!!

They were on Poison Spider, Golden Spike and Gold Bar Rim. There are plenty of tough ledges along that route and at least 3 were bone stock!! They got through easily.
Than i saw another group on Moab Rim a 4+ rated trail that has some nasty off camber ledges. They were up top coming back down. i was VERY impressed. Those things can wheel right off the showroom floor. i still think they are ugly but they absolutely suprised me to see them on Moab Rim Trail.

Without a doubt i would take one any day over a Cherokee and only a rubicon would i defend as a better off the showroom wheeler, no other jeep off the floor would hang with this new Cruiser.
Pics later.

Tom

SteveO · « **Reply #57 on:** October 17, 2006, 09:56:36 AM »

Totally stock FJC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5KyVaeeW54

Bnine · « **Reply #58 on:** October 17, 2006, 10:28:29 AM »

Quote from: "Spinalguy"

Without a doubt i would take one any day over a Cherokee and only a rubicon would i defend as a better off the showroom wheeler, no other jeep off the floor would hang with this new Cruiser.
Pics later.

Tom

A cherokee versus a new FJ really isnt apples to apples anyways Tom.

Although, give me the change left over of buying a brand new xj with a d44 rear, hp d30 front, and 4.0, versus buying a new FJ, and dollar for dollar see what happens.

But, since the xj hasnt been available in almost 5 years, to keep it apples to apples, you would have to compre the unlimited rubi, or rubi 4 door jk to the FJ.

Either of those rigs will keep up with the FJ, have as strong, if not stronger drivetrain, and are several thousand less dollars to drive off the lot.

The new Rubi JK is going for 29.5 base. Canadian.

Thats with a disconnecting front sway bar, lockers front and rear, hp 32 spline, SFA d44 up front, lockers front and rear, and the rocktrac case. The rocktrac is arguebly one the strongest chain cases ever built. Rated as high as an atlas in torque capacity.

And the top still comes off :wink: :wink: :wink:

The aftermarket is already available to put the JK on 4 inches of lift and 37's!!!!.

IMO, the cruiser is more the grocery getter. Really, its just an updated 4 runner built for the nostalgia of it, since thats the trend these days.

While jeep is going more the grocery getter, built for comfort direction every year, I think they still retain more base offroad, and original styling/concepts then any other vehicle on the market.

Spinalguy · « **Reply #59 on:** October 17, 2006, 10:36:22 AM »

Bill,
i guess its hard for me to look at the new FJ and compare it to any swb or lwb wrangler as it really is closer to the cherokee and/or liberty. As i said the rubi wins hands down but that FJ suprised the heck out of me on Moab Rim.
They definitely can wheel! A FJ on 33 IROC's just sucessfully did Fish East on Thanksgiving weekend.

BTW, it was the NAXJA annual Moab week while i was there. i saw so many BEAUTIFUL XJ's in town, a cherokee fan's fantasy i tell you.
Pics later.
Tom