Author Topic: gears, axles, lockers (Read 1409 times)

Jafar · « **on:** September 11, 2007, 12:04:53 PM »

i know you guys answered these questions a million times and i've been searching the net etc but.........

I'd like start messin around with gear ratios, stronger axles and lockers, start to buy a little at a time. Just gotta figure out the right set up and thats where i get lost. Seems like theres so many different options and opinions and i don't know enough about that stuff to make my own decision about what/where to purchase.

Jeeps a 97 manual with 4.0L. I run 33's now but would like to go up to 35 once everything's upgraded, I would also like to dolly it to the trails eventually....

Im not on a super low budget, rather get it done right first time....since i do have a heavy foot..

Any comments are greatly appreciated.

TC

Bnine · « **Reply #1 on:** September 11, 2007, 12:25:13 PM »

Buy fugs axles and build from there.

The 30 can serve as spare sparts.

The 44 is a definate upgrade to your 35 rear.

Go to pick your part and hope to find a cherokee HP 30 for 150$ of whatever it is.

Build the the 30 and 44 into what you want while you run your existing.

Very solid 35 inch tire setup done right.

rws · « **Reply #2 on:** September 11, 2007, 12:38:21 PM »

HP 30's are very common at "Pick Your Part" I have been there a couple of times over the summer and have came across Dana 44's both times.

BlackYJ · « **Reply #3 on:** September 11, 2007, 12:39:13 PM »

Bnine's response is probably the best bang for your buck. The D44 is a solid axle for 35s and can be built strong with upgraded shafts. The HP D30 can be probably almost as strong as a rubi D44 front when built properly, and strong enough for 35s, even with a heavy foot

I have ARBs front and rear and I love them. There are not cheap to buy and get installed but I am glad I spent the money.

Jafar · « **Reply #4 on:** September 11, 2007, 01:02:44 PM »

Quote from: "Bnine"

Go to pick your part and hope to find a cherokee HP 30 for 150$ of whatever it is.

what does the HP stand for
ummm...if i took a guess....High Pinion...?..i dunno...

Bnine · « **Reply #5 on:** September 11, 2007, 01:05:40 PM »

Hi pinion.

Like this, hi pinion :wink:

Joel · « **Reply #6 on:** September 11, 2007, 01:17:50 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he'll need to join the "Fantasy Forum" before he can go HP?

Jafar · « **Reply #7 on:** September 11, 2007, 01:21:45 PM »

Quote from: "RockyRD"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he'll need to join the "Fantasy Forum" before he can go HP?

...elaborate please

Bnine · « **Reply #8 on:** September 11, 2007, 01:22:25 PM »

Inside joke Tye. Joels a regular funnyman

SwampSinger · « **Reply #9 on:** September 11, 2007, 01:40:11 PM »

Quote from: "Bnine"

Hi pinion.

Like this, hi pinion :wink:

SHOWOFF !!!

...

Jafar · « **Reply #10 on:** September 11, 2007, 05:23:39 PM »

Quote from: "Bnine"

Inside joke Tye. Joels a regular funnyman

so lets say i go to pick and pull and find a HP 30, what do i salvage and what to i leave there ie:steering kunckles, hub assembly,etc...cause the only thing im going for is the housing...right...?

Bnine · « **Reply #11 on:** September 11, 2007, 10:11:38 PM »

Just throw it in the wheel barrow and keep the whole works. Its all the same price as far as I know.

Hacksaw, or better yet cordless sawzall the stock arms, beat the frame side track bar TRE and pitman TRE out and take it home.

Id say disco the driveshaft, but those are always gone.

If it is a hi enough ratio you can use the stock carrier and throw an aussie in it.

You get spare shafts, knuckles, unit bearings, and brakes if its all there.

Do not get an axle disconnect type. If there is a square box on the passenger axle tube, move on and keep looking.

Gear it, lock it, shorten your stock driveshaft, put new u joints in the shafts, and you are set for heavy use with 35's. The gains are

significantly stronger ring and pinion

improved driveline angle

better alignment angle and front end handling (allows for more castor without compromising ujoint angles)

higher clearenced driveshaft

Go over "jeepsunlimited" and do a search on hp30 swap. It is probably the most popular front end swap over there. Lots of info.

Jafar · « **Reply #12 on:** September 12, 2007, 08:00:07 AM »

cool...thanks....Ill run with that for now....