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Offline LEMON-AID JAY

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« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2007, 10:54:03 PM »
two things to say 4wheelers do not help 4wheelers as much any more I am not sure why but they don't. I do allot more recovery's because of this. The other  thing is if you charge someone to help them you are taking on the liability and if something goes wrong you can be held responsable for any damages or injury.

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« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2007, 10:59:49 PM »
Quote from: "LEMON-AID JAY"
The other  thing is if you charge someone to help them you are taking on the liability and if something goes wrong you can be held responsable for any damages or injury.

Lemon-aid jay  :D


Correct me if I'm wrong, but we all take on that responsibility regardless of charging or not, correct?
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« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2007, 11:05:42 PM »
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Quote from: "LEMON-AID JAY"
The other  thing is if you charge someone to help them you are taking on the liability and if something goes wrong you can be held responsable for any damages or injury.

Lemon-aid jay  :D


Correct me if I'm wrong, but we all take on that responsibility regardless of charging or not, correct?

Not really it is allot easier for you to be held responsible if you charge for a service. If not you are just helping.
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« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2007, 11:08:30 PM »
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Not really it is allot easier for you to be held responsible if you charge for a service. If not you are just helping.


So different rules for off-road as opposed to on-road?
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« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2007, 11:14:44 PM »
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Quote from: "LEMON-AID JAY"

Not really it is allot easier for you to be held responsible if you charge for a service. If not you are just helping.


So different rules for off-road as opposed to on-road?

Maybe. This is what I have been told by my lawyer and it is the same reason I have such a detailed waiver. Waiver helps with insurance but it may not stop me from being sued.
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« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2007, 08:24:54 AM »
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two things to say 4wheelers do not help 4wheelers as much any more I am not sure why but they don't. I do allot more recovery's because of this. The other  thing is if you charge someone to help them you are taking on the liability and if something goes wrong you can be held responsable for any damages or injury.

Lemon-aid jay  :D


I thought you were not doing it anymore?
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Offline LEMON-AID JAY

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« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2007, 05:37:26 PM »
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Quote from: "LEMON-AID JAY"
two things to say 4wheelers do not help 4wheelers as much any more I am not sure why but they don't. I do allot more recovery's because of this. The other  thing is if you charge someone to help them you are taking on the liability and if something goes wrong you can be held responsable for any damages or injury.

Lemon-aid jay  :D


I thought you were not doing it anymore?

you must have missed the post I am back  :wink:
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« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2007, 06:40:48 PM »
is it not called the good samaritan law, which applies to first aid!!!! you offer they accept?
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« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2007, 09:12:57 PM »
Quote from: "dunl"
Quote from: "LEMON-AID JAY"

Not really it is allot easier for you to be held responsible if you charge for a service. If not you are just helping.


So different rules for off-road as opposed to on-road?


My un-educated guess is the same rules apply, on and off road, if you ask for money you are not really being a "good samaritan" you are working for a fee, and therefore risk being liable for damages.
So maybe the best way is just to help out, or not.

Maybe a person could ask for a "donation" :wink:  after a succesful extraction.
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« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2007, 11:39:43 PM »
Its the first time ive delt with strangers in need. wasted 2hrs of my time..

Its common sense not to go out in the muddy bush by yourself.. no matter what your doing..


If u take that risk by yourself.. get out of it yourself. call your friends whatever.  Dont bother the people who come prepared..

None of this "i didnt know better"  Its still common sense..
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« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2007, 11:42:06 PM »
Hey Spinalguy,
Yeah, no problem; the # is 278-7876 and tell them to ask for Tom  :wink:
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« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2007, 07:29:05 AM »
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Its the first time ive delt with strangers in need. wasted 2hrs of my time..

Its common sense not to go out in the muddy bush by yourself.. no matter what your doing..


If u take that risk by yourself.. get out of it yourself. call your friends whatever.  Dont bother the people who come prepared..

None of this "i didnt know better"  Its still common sense..


"Common sense" is, contrary to popular belief, actually "common".  Unfortunately, it's just not GOOD sense. :lol:

If I wasn't willing to take the opportunity to educate someone who sorely needs it by helping them out and talking some sense into them, giving some direction, letting them know where to go for information on wheeling and experienced wheelers to wheel with......



I wouldn't complain about trail closures.



Just my opinion. :)
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« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2007, 08:44:11 AM »
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Hey Spinalguy,
Yeah, no problem; the # is 278-7876 and tell them to ask for Tom  :wink:


ha,ha,ha...nice  8)
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« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2007, 09:05:24 AM »
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None of this "i didnt know better"  Its still common sense..


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