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yjcanibul

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« on: October 24, 2007, 08:24:45 PM »
with a loonie=USD a friend told me he heard people are crossing the border to pickup their rubi's which start about $9,000 less than ours for same equipment, like 23G not 32G, sounds like something worth looking into ?

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2007, 09:51:19 PM »
Talked to a guy today who went south and saved 13 thousand on a pickup.
I think it will be a real pain in the butt to get a vehicle bought in the US to Canada, but I may be wrong. I can imagine it won't be that easy to get timely warranty work done on the vehicle either if at all. Will a canadian dealer get re-imbursed for warranty work on a US vehicle?
I'm sure the prices will drop here soon, I have heard through the grapevine that new car sales are starting to drop off.
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2007, 10:16:09 PM »
I recently looked into this, numerous calls to Chrysler Canada and US.

A US Jeep's warranty is null and void if it is exported out of the US.

I still kinda regret not buying this for 24k...
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yjcanibul

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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2007, 11:00:07 PM »
$9000 in your pocket might outweigh a warranty ...

if they need that much in repairs then they svck which I dont think is the case

its a risk but low ?, having owned a few new jeeps over the years most of the repairs were of the several hundred dollar variety some of which I wouldnt have bothered todo if it cost me extra ... stuff like a leaky window seal etc you could just stuff with some of the ca$h you saved .... the things I really wanted replaced seemed to never be covered or time/mileage screwed me ....

wouldnt you save on gst also ,  am sure customs wants something -wouldnt it be 23000 * .06 as opposed to 32000 * .06  ?

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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2007, 12:44:16 AM »
Yeah Canadian dealerships arent honoring US warranties to try and stop people from going to the states.

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2007, 09:56:52 AM »
Not all dealerships of all cars are not warrantying claims.(thats like a triple negative :lol: ) Some are absolutely not doing it but most are. Some with a time period (after 6 months) and some like Porsche with no time period.

Ian, it is so easy to do this, its ridiculous :shock:

72 hours in advance of going through a border crossing, you must fax the bill of sale to the crossing. The dealership will give you a temporary license plate and your insurance company will give you insurance in advance. So you could fly down and drive back.
You will pay 6%GST at the border. The car must got to Canadain Tire within 90 days to pass an inspection. Mainly daytime running lights and metric conversion.

Here is a detailed synopsis. By the way, i would pass on warranty or buy a 3rd party warranty if i saved a LOT of money. i am looking at a Shelby 500 for 40,000 less in the USA.

New Vehicles
As a consumer, what do you have to be aware of in purchasing a new vehicle from the U.S?
1. Check the Registrar of Imported Vehicles (RIV) website (www.riv.ca) or call them at 1-888-848-8240 to make sure
that the vehicle you are interested in is admissible in Canada.
2. Transportation of the vehicle – don’t forget to include the costs you will incur in going and getting the vehicle or
getting it shipped. Shipping will likely cost you at least $1,500.
3. There are several steps and costs that you will incur prior to being able to register the vehicle:
a. The U.S. Customs requires the title of the vehicle and Bill of Sale 72 hours prior to the vehicle arriving
at the border so don’t think that you can arrive at the border, spend an hour or so and keep on driving
with everything done. There is a $500 fine if this is not done properly.
b. The Canadian Registrar of Imported Vehicle (RIV) requires that you complete a Form 1 which will cost
you $195 plus GST
c. GST on the vehicle – will be collected at the border
d. Canadian Federal Inspection – refer to the RIV website for locations – cost included in RIV fee
e. Provincial Out of Province inspection – variable cost (Brand new vehicles may be exempted)
f. Provincial Registration – you are required to provide the original U.S. title, RIV Form 1 and the Out of
Province inspection
4. Warranty – you need to research this thoroughly if you want a warranty. Some manufacturers cancel the new
vehicle warranty as soon as they find out that the vehicle is out of the country. Go to the dealer where you would
go for any warranty work and tell them what you are planning on doing. They will inform you of any warranty
issues that you will encounter. Several manufacturers cancel the warranty on vehicles brought in from the U.S. so
you would have no warranty in Canada.
5. Canadian manufacturers have created CAMVAP – the Canadian Motor Vehicle Arbitration Plan which helps out
consumers if there is a problem with a new vehicle. This program would be unavailable with a vehicle purchased in
the U.S.
6. AMVIC is there to help you if you have a problem with a vehicle purchased in Alberta – AMVIC cannot help with
vehicles purchased out of country.
7. Service – check with the dealer where you would plan to have the vehicle serviced and see if there will be any
issues with having the vehicle serviced.
8. Vehicle modification – not all vehicles from the U.S. are identical in Canada. Some features such as day time
running lights are mandated in Canada and the vehicle will have to be changed to comply.
9. Financing – no manufacturer financing is available to Canadian citizens purchasing in the U.S. You either pay cash
or get financing from your own financial institution.
9. Instrument cluster – Canadian vehicles are required to register speed in km/hour. If the vehicle that you are
importing does not register speed in both km/hr and miles/hr, then you will have to get the instrument cluster
changed.
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2007, 10:06:49 AM »
If you're buying a used vehicle from an individual and not a dealership you don't have to pay GST do you? That would be quite ridiculous... but it wouldn't surprise me if you had to.

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2007, 02:01:43 PM »
Please note that everything Spinalguy says is correct as we bring commercial vehicles all the time. When you purchase a vehicle you receive the operators manual, open it up and it says "warranty valid anywhere in North America". If you vacationed in the States with your vehicle and it broke down, would they fix it? I have lots of friends that have done this and will go to court if required.

My opinion is as follows, force your local dealer or negotiate a better price or you will take your business elswewhere.

My 2 cents

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2007, 03:22:54 PM »
Good point.

How about manufactured vehicles that are sold in a different country?  Are they going to tell you that you're warranty is void if you're jeep was bought in the US, but it's all good if it was made there and then shipped to Canada for sale?
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2007, 05:03:02 PM »
Saw something about this on the news a while back, from what they said, only a few manufactures will sell NEW vehicles to canadian buyers in the states. But have no restrictions on buying used vehicles. So the 07 rubi might be out of reach... but a 03 rubi could be had at a bargain...

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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2007, 03:50:41 AM »
I bought my 04 Rubicon about a year ago in Oklahoma City. Crossed the border with no problems. A couple of taxes and fees but nothing unexpected. Its the paper work you have to sort out before you bring it across.
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2007, 08:39:48 AM »
So I went to autotrader.com, they needed a zip code so I typed in the only one I know " 90120 " :lol:  Then started looking for a low mileage '07, there's lots. I don't imagine a used car lot would have any issue selling to a canadian
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2007, 12:35:23 PM »
Funny I did the same thing.  I did find a postal code for Montana and there was a rubi there for 24K

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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2007, 12:44:18 PM »
I've talked with dealers and the markup over USD suggested sell will remain at approximately 24%. This supprises me because the large vocational equipment I buy I convert daily. It's the large automakers that are the problem and won't change the CDN suggested list on the products and what the local dealer pays. Nothing will change until the dealers are hurting, complaining because they are being by passed. Please note that the local new car dealer is not making really any more money.

I will not support paying more in Canada for the same vehicle when you consider it was our business relations and how the US conducts themselves in the world that led us to a raised dollar. Take advantage boys, if it can be imported and you want it go get it.

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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2007, 03:16:06 PM »
I watched a special on the new a few weeks ago about how bombardier is charging less for there sleds in the US (which are made in Canada) But are telling the dealers not to sell to Canadians, or they will revoke there authorized dealer status.

I've heard that the car company's may be doing something similar.