Calgary Jeep Association
4x4 Related Groups => General Talk => Topic started by: HeadHunter on February 07, 2009, 01:06:16 PM
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Arguably the best thing to happen to Jeep since the Rubicon series! Now I am all for the GMC/Chrysler Merge (GCM).
I picked up my issue of JP mag in the mail this morn and what great news has flowed from the pages! I will quote a bit of the article for you, since I couldnt find the article on JP magazine website yet.:
"GMC doesnt want compitition for the Hummer or GMC trucks... GCM will announce, when the merge is final, that it has sold Jeep to International... IH signed a contract to keep all current Chrysler engine options for up to 5 years... Big news for the Wrangler in 2010, the IFS platform redesign to begin in 2013 has been sent back to the drawing board indefinitely, and in addition to a 5.7L Hemi option in the JK under the same 5 year contract, IH will offer the 3L v-6 (diesel) AND the 4.5L v-6 Maxxforce Navistar diesel engine wtih an Allison 1000 five speed tranny.... other immediate change is that all Jeep models (now restricted to wrangler, Grand Cherokee, and the Liberty, whos name will be changed back to Cherokee) will be available with RUBICON package featuring front and rear lockers, 4:1 TC & electronic sway bar disconnects... Rubicon package will offer a 1.5`` lift which will clear 245/75/R17 (31``) BFG MT KM2 tires for the Liberty and Grande Cherokee... future plans are to discontinue the Liberty name and call it the Cherokee again both over seas and in North America,... Other changes are SOLID AXLES under the front of the next generation of Grande Cherokee and Liberty... etc..
Hell yes.
This will be a great change.
If you havnt bought a JK yet, maybe hold off awhile, till International can strip Jeep from those clowns and give it some REAL power train options.
GO PICK UP YOUR COPY OF JP MAG TODAY!
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April Fools ... ;)
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This is in the April edition, the first of April is?......
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This is in the April edition, the first of April is?......
That and we aren't in April yet. This point was brought up on another site. Weird, eh?
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I'm still hoping it's for real!
Just call me the pessimist. :P
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hmmm... something seams awry... are we sure this isnt the usual JP mag april fools joke? it seems like way too much info given out at once. like its been in the works for a few years now.
and since when is international harvester around? i guess we shall see...
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yea, i wasnt paying attention to the month of issue, which is indeed April. hmmm..
what a blessing it would be though. keep the fingers crossed.
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International Harvester died as a company in the 80's
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International Harvester died as a company in the 80's
Ya...I guess that's the ringer LOL
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It's all BS >:(. If Jeep is going anywhere I be sure to let y'all know as soon as I do ;).
Your 'corporate connection' smurf ;D.
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It's all BS >:(. If Jeep is going anywhere I be sure to let y'all know as soon as I do ;).
Your 'corporate connection' smurf ;D.
Is it true that Jeep is the only profitable line of vehicles for Daimler ?
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The Jeep & Ram line-ups have both been paying more bills than the other stuff. There will certainly be some adjustments made with marketing & product lines but so far the biggest news is the Fiat will be helping with the development of more affordable 'entry level' & 'energy conscious' units.
There will still be smaller scale Cummins diesel engines introduced, but not sure exactly which units are getting which engine.
Like I said before...when I know for sure, you'll know too :o.
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so how do you know these things hmm?
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so how do you know these things hmm?
He works at a local soon-to-be FIAT dealer ;D
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The Jeep & Ram line-ups have both been paying more bills than the other stuff. There will certainly be some adjustments made with marketing & product lines but so far the biggest news is the Fiat will be helping with the development of more affordable 'entry level' & 'energy conscious' units.
There will still be smaller scale Cummins diesel engines introduced, but not sure exactly which units are getting which engine.
Like I said before...when I know for sure, you'll know too :o.
I've heard of diesel engines in compact cars... But not Jeep...yet. A diesel Jeep is waaayyyy overdue.
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I've heard of diesel engines in compact cars... But not Jeep...yet. A diesel Jeep is waaayyyy overdue.
What do you mean, the Liberty had a diesel and the new Grands have a diesel, what more do you want?
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So what can you tell us about "soon to be smaller Cummins engines"?
That's pretty unspecific. Are you talking about A series engines, or something new around that size?
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Sorry about the vague info but I don't believe in sharing rumors. I DO know for a fact that Cummins finished development of v6 & v8 engines that they released to Chrysler for testing in a number of different platforms last summer. Which one ends up in what...I don't know yet.
Here's something from www.allpar.com -
The diesel Grand Cherokees - which outsell gas GCs in Canada - will get a 4.2 liter Cummins V6 built in a new factory 2010, with the next generation (190 hp, over 400 lb-ft). This and a 5.0-liter Cummins V8 diesel will be used in Dodge Ram pickups as well. Chrysler was allegedly looking at the possibility of diesel Chargers or 300s for the US. The 4.2 liter Cummins V6 is said to have 190 hp and 420 lb-ft of torque. Gas mileage with this engine in the Grand Cherokee is likely to be about 20 city, 25 highway, far better than the 4.7 V8 (14/18), with similar acceleration.
Here's another snippit - nothing very specific but the info on allpar is reasonably reliable.
Jeep Wrangler,
Jeep Scrambler (Jeep JT)A concept pickup, called the Scrambler, was closely based on the Wrangler; later, the Jeep JT, essentially the same thing, was created. For details: Two door Wrangler - Four door Wrangler (Unlimited) - Scrambler pickup. The Scambler appears to be out of the picture for the moment (though it would be handy), but the limited production AEV Brute may be increased in number and cut in cost thanks to Jeep involvement. Update: the Scrambler appears to have been completely dropped; the Wrangler will get the new Phoenix engine but not a four cylinder.(dated info already :-\)
Grand Cherokee
Jeep CommanderRumors say the Commander will be deleted, but the Grand Cherokee platform (still called WK) will be used for the next Durango, in standard and stretched versions. For the 2011 Grand Cherokee, we’d hoped to see a 4.2 liter Cummins V6 with 190 hp and 420 lb-ft of torque with around 20 city, 25 highway, but we’ve been told to expect the same Mercedes 3-liter V6 diesel, with other engines being the 3.6 liter Phoenix engine and the 5.7 Hemi. The new 3.6 should outrun the original 4.7 V8. Details!
Jeep Liberty
Dodge NitroThe Dodge Nitro goes on-road path and the Liberty stays off-road. The Nitro is based on the Jeep Liberty, and is built on the same line; but it is not expected to last past this generation. The Liberty will not be getting the 4.0 V6, it doesn’t fit. Wait for the Phoenix!
Patriot and Compass
No diesels for the Patriot and Compass; but electric power for Patriot by 2013. U.S. emissions requirements are tough to get around and Americans aren’t willing to pay the price premium (so far.) Nicely redone interiors and a bit more sound insulation make these cars much more attractive, though the back seats remain el cheapo.
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What do you mean, the Liberty had a diesel and the new Grands have a diesel, what more do you want?
He said "Jeep" Scott ;)
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That's some good info I was looking for. Those Phoenix engines look promising:
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/phoenix-engines.html