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Title: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: BUKI on April 17, 2012, 09:20:19 AM
What's the best one?? Want to adjust steering stops but crazy rust, also going to heat the crap out of them. Any suggestions? :)
Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: NUXJR on April 17, 2012, 09:34:12 AM
I've been using Release-All for a long time.  Seems to work quite well and it's more bio friendly too
Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: Vinman on April 17, 2012, 11:01:26 AM
50/50 mix of auto tranny fluid and acetone was rated better than any off the shelf product.

Vince
Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: Jrama on April 17, 2012, 11:02:39 AM
^^I have never known a penetrating oil to ever really solve issues, they just make the doable easier. Off the shelf PB blaster is my favorite but I'm definitely going to give the tranny fluid and acetone a try...luckily not a lot of rust or stuck bolts on my 04  ;D

I should add the most useless one i tried was liquid wrench, but its not like I have an objective method of proving which oils are better
Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: IgniteTJ on April 17, 2012, 11:06:11 AM
I like sea foam or wurth products personally
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Post by: Knox on April 17, 2012, 11:15:11 AM
for off the shelf products, I've had good luck with both PB blaster and Liquid Wrench.

I actually prefer Liquid Wrench since it's non toxic/wont catch fire, so you can heat and spray at the same time all you want.
Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: BUKI on April 17, 2012, 01:04:15 PM
50/50 mix of auto tranny fluid and acetone was rated better than any off the shelf product.

Vince
I'm gonna try this as I have both. I'm assuming you just brush it on??
Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: Knox on April 17, 2012, 01:40:20 PM
I'm gonna try this as I have both. I'm assuming you just brush it on??

old style squeeze ketchup bottle?  ;D
Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: Vinman on April 17, 2012, 04:31:38 PM
I'm gonna try this as I have both. I'm assuming you just brush it on??

I've never tried it but will mix it and use a refillable WD40 spray bottle to apply it.

Vince
Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: LukeDuke on April 17, 2012, 04:56:35 PM
Heat it up with a torch. Take one of your wifes/girlfreinds/roommates fancy candles and melt it all over the threads. Spin out by hand.

We use this trick on rusted heavy equipment under caraige all the time.
Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: Black Betty on April 19, 2012, 10:12:16 PM
for off the shelf products, I've had good luck with both PB blaster and Liquid Wrench.

I actually prefer Liquid Wrench since it's non toxic/wont catch fire, so you can heat and spray at the same time all you want.

X2, both awesome products.
Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: JackstandJohnny on April 20, 2012, 11:03:17 AM
WD 40 is the best one i've ever used.


i've never met a bolt i couldn't get out using WD 40........... 

Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: Black Betty on April 20, 2012, 06:19:58 PM
WD 40 is the best one i've ever used.


i've never met a bolt i couldn't get out using WD 40........... 



Hmm, I have not had such luck with good old wd.  Its actually Water Dispacement (trial #40).  But for cleaning up old metal it works great.
Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: JackstandJohnny on April 21, 2012, 12:44:22 AM
Hmm, I have not had such luck with good old wd.  Its actually Water Dispacement (trial #40).  But for cleaning up old metal it works great.


i've heard many people have not had success with WD40. i've never had a problem with it.  i would like to attribute it to the qualities of said product, but its most likely due to my massive muscles, and ability to input such forces to said bolt via ratchet.


all though air tools are nice............................. ;) 

Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: BUKI on April 21, 2012, 11:06:08 AM
No no. You just use your used car salesmen techniques to beat it into submission.  ;)
Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: JackstandJohnny on April 21, 2012, 04:39:48 PM
lol!

funny story, i sold that car thursday ;) you missed out!
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Post by: Loaderopp on April 23, 2012, 12:28:30 AM
Fluid film works great
Title: Re: Best rust/penetrating oil?
Post by: Vinman on May 29, 2012, 06:46:04 AM
Let's dig this back up for a minute, I came across this post on another forum:

Did a quick google search and found this.

BenBeenBanned@VWVortex said:
Some of you might appreciate this. Machinist's Workshop magazine tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts.

They are below, as forwarded by an ex-student and professional machinist, Bud Baker.

They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.

Penetrating oil ..... Average load

None ...................... 516 pounds

WD-40 ................... 238 pounds

PB Blaster ............... 214 pounds

Liquid Wrench ......... 127 pounds

Kano Kroil .............. 106 pounds

ATF-Acetone mix.......53 pounds

The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. Our local machinist group mixed up a batch and we all now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price

Might make some up when my new shocks finally arrive.
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