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Offline Tagg

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On board air without tank?
« on: April 10, 2010, 06:50:16 PM »
I need an air compressor to install under the hood for airing up after rides.  I was hoping not to have an air tank involved.
I saw that Viair 450 100% duty cycle and wondered if that would fill the bill?  Anyone with experience or suggestions?
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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2010, 06:57:33 PM »
Hey Jim,

I have the ARB pump.  I found it to be a bit more affordable than the Viair. I'm sure the Viair will fill faster though.  The pump mounts under the hood and pumps up my 35s with no problem.  Got it through Northridge.

PS - Looking forward to wheeling with you spring!
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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2010, 07:52:06 PM »
I picked up the Viair that was rated for 33's.  It's not 100% duty cycle and doesn't mount under the hood but it fills fairly quick and I can take it in our truck if I want to.  I picked it up through NSOR.
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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2010, 08:18:47 PM »
i run the ARB as well picked it up thru nothridge with the air up kit for around 300 bucks
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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2010, 08:27:53 PM »
Damn Kyle, quit copying me  ;) 
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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2010, 08:32:15 PM »
low cash is an air conditioning compressor hack. Seen this done of TJ54's little red, but haven't seen him around much. He might still be lurking.

Essentially, just use a a/c unit with some odd bits of pluming and a blow off and you've got a solution. All be it a slow solution, but cheaper than off the shelf.


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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2010, 08:46:17 PM »
Agreed. Not sure if that works on a JK though... that would be good to know if it would...  And I think Tagg's black beauty may have air onditioning already.
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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2010, 09:22:50 PM »
...  And I think Tagg's black beauty may have air onditioning already.

I heard there's even a jacuzzi in the back of that thing.  :o

Waytec runs an A/C compressor unit...although I know exactly what you mean, "hack" is not the word for it..."sweet" would work.   ;)
 
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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2010, 09:27:57 PM »
You are going to have to run a small tank. they act like a accumulator/expansion camber to adsorb the shocks so you don't lock the compressor and bugger it up.
 ARBs have a very small tank on it for this resion.

I would not call converting a A/C compressor hack. I filled up 3 rigs today 33,s, 35,s and one set of 31's in about 1/2 an hour
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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2010, 09:28:55 PM »
low cash is an air conditioning compressor hack. Seen this done of TJ54's little red, but haven't seen him around much. He might still be lurking.

Essentially, just use a a/c unit with some odd bits of pluming and a blow off and you've got a solution. All be it a slow solution, but cheaper than off the shelf.



I'm not sure I'd refer to an A/C pump converted to on board air as low cash or hack.

I installed a junkyard york A/C compressor on my last Jeep (Kilby mount) and would run it against ANY of the portable air units.
Re-seat a popped bead - no problem
100% duty cycle - no problem
Run a 1/2 drive impact - no problem.

In fact, my next Jeep will have another York compressor as an air source, (although next time, I'll get the entire kit from Kilby instead of piecing it together. The bits and pieces will nickel & dime you the death)

Heres a kit for the JK, it ain't cheap but you could buy only what you need instead of the whole package.
http://www.kilbyenterprises.com/KE-2200-K.htm

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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2010, 09:47:15 PM »
I created a monster.  :o

I was being sarcastic...."hack" usually today means that you take something and convert it for your own use....like hacking an iPhone.   I'm sure apex wasn't meaning that the A/C compressor is low quality or any kind of an old-term meaning "hack-job".  8)
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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2010, 10:30:04 PM »
Agreed. Not sure if that works on a JK though... that would be good to know if it would...  And I think Tagg's black beauty may have air onditioning already.

Kilby actually makes a complete kit to add an engine-driven system to your JK - mostly bolt-on from what I've read. You get to keep your AC....but Kilby gets to keep $1100 that used to be yours... :o
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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2010, 11:45:33 PM »
Damn Kyle, quit copying me  ;) 

I told you i wanted your TJ........... but you said NO  :o so now i have to build the same  ;D LOL
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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2010, 10:02:17 AM »
I heard there's even a jacuzzi in the back of that thing.  :o

Damn thing is leaking too. Hope to have it repaired by spring!! ;D
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Re: On board air without tank?
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2010, 03:42:44 PM »
I'll throw this option in the mix.  I'm currently running  this setup without an air tank strictly to air up my tires. 

Extreme-Aire Magnum


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# Continuous Duty Cycle @ 150psi
# 1.5 Horsepower Motor 12 Volt (Available in 24 volt)
# 95 Amp Draw at 100psi
# 6 cfm free flow rate
# 2.6cfm @ 100psi
# 150psi max working pressure
# 16" long 6" wide 10" tall

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