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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2010, 09:53:28 AM »
X2

I've heard from folks who have Toyos that they have been mounted without balancing and experienced no vibes...even on the highway.

Is that what you mean by balanced well?

We put Bonnies 33"-13.5 Toyos O/C MY on aluminum rims with Staun bead lock without balancing them... no vibes.

the Nittos looks pretty aggressive Tom... nice!

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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2010, 09:57:02 AM »
Lets stop the comments about National and Modern if it's not positive... We do not do that to our supporters...to each is own. Everybody have thier stories... frustration is understandable .. take it with them.. NOT HERE!


I will nuke the posts if I see that crap again.
 
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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2010, 10:12:32 AM »


you heard the [bacon comb-over] man, move along.
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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2010, 06:48:13 PM »
I'd be interested to know how you find the MT's on the highway.  I'm running the Nitto Highway Terrain on my 1/2 ton work truck and they are less than stellar.  They are stock size, load range E.  They feel like they want to wander in the wind and over the crest of the highway.  That and they don't like slush.
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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2010, 08:09:44 PM »
you may just be underinflated.  how much pressure you run? 
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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2010, 08:31:01 PM »
I'd be interested to know how you find the MT's on the highway.  I'm running the Nitto Highway Terrain on my 1/2 ton work truck and they are less than stellar.  They are stock size, load range E.  They feel like they want to wander in the wind and over the crest of the highway.  That and they don't like slush.
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i hope mine perform better. i bought them for onroad performance and cool looks ;) i do log many miles on trunk roads as well and figured they would be great.
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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #21 on: September 10, 2010, 08:49:54 PM »
Spinalguy, what would a 1 hour session run me if I started a thread and pimped your shop with good reviews? ;D

Looking forward to seeing these tires preform on the trails. Let me know when you take your truck out. ;)

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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2010, 09:03:48 PM »
Spinalguy, what would a 1 hour session run me if I started a thread and pimped your shop with good reviews? ;D

Looking forward to seeing these tires preform on the trails. Let me know when you take your truck out. ;)
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Hey now i took my truck wheelin in Moab 2 years ago. It was FUN!
And last week, these tires would have made short work of the mud bog getting out of camp.

And they look so darn cool
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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2010, 10:26:26 PM »
you may just be underinflated.  how much pressure you run? 

Tried changing it Al.

I'm at 35 now.  Tried about 50 because at 35 they look pretty low, not much difference in handling though.  I've read with high load range tires you actually need more pressure than stock P range (like 10-15 more).  Not sure how true that is because I'm too lazy to use the chalk test on the work truck.
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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2010, 04:26:32 PM »
tires are max 65 psi. Using my digital gauge i put them at 65 front and 60 rear.
Today i did the deerfoot at 120km/hr.
No problems, very smooth.
Bigtime rain later today. Felt very confident.

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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2010, 04:44:45 PM »
That is too much. Chalk test will help. Overinflation is bad and can make the vehicle feel unstable through no shock absorbtion. Just like bumpsteer. Both should be mid 20s. If it wanders on you, may need a wheel alignment due to the change in tire sizes.
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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2010, 09:47:25 PM »
can you explain this "chalk test" you guys are referencing pls
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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2010, 10:33:55 PM »
put your tires to 28 lbs and run a thick line of chalk across the tread

drive straight down a road for about 1-2 km then check how the chalk is wearing off on the tires

too much pressure it will wear in the center.  too little and more to the outsides.  good it will wear fairly even on the tread.

adjust pressure and do it again.  i alway start high cause its easier to let air out
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Re: New boots and socks
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2010, 11:08:47 AM »
Real world update...

i did the chalk test and found the front likes 60 and the rear (with no trailer) likes 55.
i pulled a cargo trailer that weighs 1100 lbs and was loaded with another 1400lbs down to Moab and back.
Smooth rolling tires. Less noise than my 12 Valve produces :P. Less mpg versus the BFG AT in same size :'(

i have also run them on Trunk roads around here. With the BFG AT's the truck always felt like it was rolling on ball bearings (uneasy feeling on gravel) but these Nittos made me feel like i was in a high performance rally car. They stuck to the road.

WINTER :o
This week was the true test as i wanted a tire that was as good as the BFG AT is in winter. i let out some more air. 58/53.
First up was the snow. i believe that vehicles that came with 4wd should be in 4wd when weeks like this one are present.
Having said that, i started in 2wd. The tires dug without moving until we reached cement, than i was able to go forward. They stop MUCH better than my BFG AT's. i admit i was surprised at that result. But 2wd just doesn't cut it, so i have been in 4wd all week. Main roads, side streets, Deerfoot, etc.
Observations:
1. These tires STOP quickly in all situations.
2. The front end does not slide out on corners.
3. Icy hardpack conditions and the tires still stick to the road
4. i have yet to see snow fill in between lugs. Always cleaned out.
5. i would buy again...

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Re: New boots and socks**(update)
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2010, 12:33:17 PM »
Thanks for the update!  Might have to look more seriously at those in the Spring/Summer.  They caught my eye as it was, but I was hoping to see an update from you on here about them.