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Offline fony3

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Recovery Strap
« on: October 05, 2006, 10:32:52 AM »
I was looking on the princess auto site today and found two straps. I was told a while back that i want to get a 30 foot x 3" strap. Just hoping to get some opinions on teh size, capacity and price of the two. Is there anywhere else i could compare prices.
Thanks

1________________________________________
RECOVERY STRAPS
$ 59.99
• Nylon webbing
• Reinforced inserts sewn into loops to reduce wear and abrasion
3" x 30 ft. 27,000 lb. capacity
Regular Price: $72.99
Weight: 5.4 lbs

2________________________________________
TOW STRAP
$ 19.99
• 4" x 25 ft.
• Breaking strength:15,000 lbs.
• Safe working load
Regular Price: $26.99
Weight: 4.3 lbs

Offline apex

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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2006, 10:46:40 AM »
option 1 is the ticket. you want to keep it around the 30k breaking strength. just make sure there are looped ends with to metal at all. metal kills.

you can also try cambell Mac for some straps or the 4x4 shops.

$60-90 sounds about right on a decent strap. Its one of those things you don't want to cheap out on. they're worth ever penny.

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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2006, 10:49:16 AM »
Modern Motors is pretty cheap for straps, however I am pretty sure they come from Campbell mac
'95 YJ with a few mods

Offline fony3

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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2006, 11:14:42 AM »
Yeah, i've read no metal before, and heard stories of metal hooks going through windows, seats and people...

Since i have posted i read that tow straps are really good for, you guessed it, towing...I'll make a couple calls but i think the 60 dollar one will be good enough for me.

Thanks guys.

Offline Elsifer

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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2006, 01:49:20 PM »
Tow straps are really good for storing and releasing kinetic energy. But at a slower rate than chains!

Snap and jerk towing is possible with a strap, and safer because the snap and jerk will actually exceed the SWL (safe working load) of the strap and then utilises the Shock Strength or Shock Load factor, which is more than the SWL. Like probably 1.5x or greater.

Now, all this within reason, I don't want to take a 25' run at pulling your stuck jeep out with a 30' strap. Something metal will break! Some slack on the line is ok, its useful.

Thats why chains are bad,bad,bad. They do not have a shock load rating, either none, or very close to none. They might have a higher SWL, and because metal does stretch, just not too much, thats why when they break they go flying! Bad, bad, bad, very bad.

Though, by rights, when a strap gets all encrusted with mud, it should be taken out of service.
By rights, a strap that gets wet and freezes, should be taken out of service.
Now I am not gonna argue about how synthetic fibres are not supposed to succumb to water. But they do.

The reason we all use muddy and water damaged straps is that when they snap, they are not much of a projectile. The kinetic energy stored when the strap is stretched is released slower than a chain, when the strap breaks.
If you put a shackle between two of them for a longer pull, well then treat that shackle the same as you would a winch line, just in case. Because the shackle will become a projectile, though not nearly as bad as winch line.
(Actually in a perfect world, it should actually fall straight down; but we know its not a perfect world, so it can go flying)


Plus your two straps shown below:
1________________________________________
RECOVERY STRAPS
$ 59.99
• Nylon webbing
• Reinforced inserts sewn into loops to reduce wear and abrasion
3" x 30 ft. 27,000 lb. capacity
Regular Price: $72.99
Weight: 5.4 lbs

Capacity is less than breaking strength. Capacity is max Safe Working Load

2________________________________________
TOW STRAP
$ 19.99
• 4" x 25 ft.
• Breaking strength:15,000 lbs.
• Safe working load
Regular Price: $26.99
Weight: 4.3 lbs

Breaking strength is by rights higher than the SWL. Though it seems this strap is rated the same for Breaking and SWL. Both of which are lower than strap #1.

Also interesting to see the 4" strap is lighter than the 3" strap, even though its 1" wider and 5' shorter.
Meaning the 3" strap is thicker, heavier, and "better".

Buy the 3"x30', you cant go wrong!

Sermon over.
VA6CPL
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whitetrash96

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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2006, 04:10:24 PM »
I would definately get the 3"x30', you don't want to have to put a clevice between two straps. Heres what happens when a strap breaks with a clevice between two straps.



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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2006, 04:40:27 PM »
DAMN!!! that is scary!

Offline fony3

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« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2006, 07:05:30 PM »
OK, so i picked one up at modern motors today for something like 54 bucks. It says its rated for 2700 lbs, only thing that worries me is that the receipt says tow strap. I would say it weights about 5/6 pounds like the one at princess. Probably ok for now, hopefully i can compare it to someones on a trail run.

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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2006, 10:38:40 PM »
Quote from: "fony3"
It says its rated for 2700 lbs,


I hope you mean 27,000 lbs :D
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Offline Vinman

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« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2006, 04:48:42 PM »
Quote from: "whitetrash96"
I would definately get the 3"x30', you don't want to have to put a clevice between two straps. Heres what happens when a strap breaks with a clevice between two straps.




The driver of that truck should realize just how lucky he was that clevis wasn't flying 2-3" higher, it would have been a whole different story.

And don't think for a minute that just because you use a strap with no metal hooks or clevis's that it can't cause similar damage, There was a video a while back that featured an S-10 pulling someone out of a hole with just a strap and the strap let go.
It caused similar damage (as the picture above) to the tailgate and continued through the back window and landed on the dash (I can't recall if it broke the windshield or not).

Now, any more than a simple tug, I break out the winch, especially if the stuck vehicle is heavier than mine.

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Offline JohnB

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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2006, 08:48:14 AM »
Quote from: "whitetrash96"
I would definately get the 3"x30', you don't want to have to put a clevice between two straps. Heres what happens when a strap breaks with a clevice between two straps.


This thread explains how to safely join two straps: http://www.calgaryjeep.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2750&highlight=strap