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Giffer

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time for the v8
« on: May 06, 2008, 10:05:39 PM »
http://gmperformancepartszone.com/crate-engines-chevy-smallblock-c-1_2.html

i think its the only way to go! ive decided not to go for tires bigger then 35 for now but i still need more power!! so looks like im going to go with a crate. it wont be for a couple of months but im going to get all the parts together before i start, my jeep is also my daily driver, so it needs to be on the road for now.
but anyone here done a v8 conversion??? ive heard that the 350 will bolts into the ax15, no i dont believe everything i hear, but still might as well ask.

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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2008, 07:44:23 AM »
How big did you want to go with your tires? Keep in mind some of the clubs are starting to limit tire size allowed of their members. The FWS are at 37" I think, and one of the CJA meetings they where talking about keeping it at 40" max... could be wrong, but may want to check on those things before settling on the tire size.

Anybody confirm these?

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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2008, 08:17:46 AM »
This website will show all the adapters for the conversion.

http://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/kit_gmax15.htm

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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2008, 08:36:30 AM »
[quote   clubs are starting to limit tire size allowed of their members
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Thats gay!  If clubs start limiting tires now then it'll be something else  later like no V8 engine  followed by no 1 Ton axles untill all the little whiners are happy no ones got a better jeep then them.

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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2008, 09:56:00 AM »
Are clubs going to limit the smaller tires that dig deep into the mud because they have a smaller surface area?

Age old debate.....
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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2008, 02:36:33 PM »

Thats gay!  If clubs start limiting tires now then it'll be something else  later like no V8 engine  followed by no 1 Ton axles untill all the little whiners are happy no ones got a better jeep then them.

Just my 2 cent

lol! x2

Giffer

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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2008, 04:46:39 PM »
im just going to stick with my 35's for now. maybe one day all decide to go bigger but until then i get need a little bit more power. not much more, but some. lol
now im just wondering about going with a carbed system or an efi. i dont know where to start on an efi system but im thinking the the route i should go. any ideas on that one?? and thanks rws that was exactly what i was looking for.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2008, 05:33:37 PM by Giffer »

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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2008, 05:35:15 PM »
Four Wheel Stampeders has had a 40" tire limit for a couple years now. There are a few reasons for it.  40" is kind of a magic number where once you reach that point your rig is no longer "trail rig" but more of a hardcore machine(big axles, HP to turn it.....) more suited to competion.

We have found that all the trails in Waiporous/Mclean/Dutch Creek/Indian Graves that we have done can be handled with a 35" tire. 90% can be negotiated with 31s and a winch. I know I've done it. You just have to be ok with the fact that you cann't make it thru every hole or even turn turn back. To build a rig that can simply leads to bigger holes and trail blazing of new trails. You get bored of the regular trails and start looking for new stuff.

The simplist way of dealing with it was to implement a tire restriction. 40" was picked as that seems to a natural break when you go from simply modified to wild. As well a few members were currently running 39's so this didn't exclude anyone.

This also keeps all over our members on the same level. Clubs in the past have fractured due to the "big" guys getting fed up with having to wait for the "newbies". Some clubs in the past have even considered having a "minimum" tire restriction so I really don't think that a max tire size is all that crazy.

It also shows SRD that we are trying to take measures to reduce our impact on the trails. Like it or not the bigger your rig is the more SRD frowns .

As to HP on a trail rig... HP has absoultly ZERO to do with how capable a trail rig is. Proper gearing will take you much farther on an obstacle than big HP. I did all the big name trails in Moab last year with my stock 4.0L, 5.38s gears and 36" tires and never felt the need for more HP. Neither did the two Toyota pickups with 4 bangers and 38s. Last year at High Riders Jenssen placed second with an XJ and a 4.0L. The only time I've felt the need for more HP is running on the highway.

Big HP with 40+ tires say only one thing to me.... mud boggin, sorry but those days are gone.....

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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2008, 05:36:33 PM »
Are clubs going to limit the smaller tires that dig deep into the mud because they have a smaller surface area?

Age old debate.....

You can only dig so deep then you are sitting on your axles.  :P
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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2008, 06:41:02 PM »
What I am going o do spent the money on gearing first and then on HP.
I don't know what you have now. But have you considered Supercharging instead of RE and RE. Their are some relay good kits to superchanges and their are some relay crappy ones, you need to do your research. If you are going with the V8 go with EFI you don't have to ever worry about losing fuel and stalling when off camber. Their are several crate engines available that have all the computers bolted on and hidden in several places. all you need to do is atach the red and black and turn the key. AEV has a Hemi kit of the TJs as well
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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2008, 10:54:15 PM »
Well said Clay.

Thanks for that.
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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2008, 11:58:36 PM »
Well i'll agree with clay on most parts, but i've ran wide 33 inch boggers  on my jeep for a couple years with a stock inline six .And i'll tell ya i made much more of an inpack than any street /mud tire out there!!!  Does that mean we should ban any aggressive tire  out there ????????????????????????

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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2008, 07:08:32 AM »
Guys this is a Technical Forum, please stop hijacking this thread or take it to a different section
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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2008, 12:21:01 PM »
Well i'll agree with clay on most parts, but i've ran wide 33 inch boggers  on my jeep for a couple years with a stock inline six .And i'll tell ya i made much more of an inpack than any street /mud tire out there!!!  Does that mean we should ban any aggressive tire  out there ????????????????????????




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Re: time for the v8
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2008, 04:44:48 PM »
math does not lie with my 46x22 ag tires I have  a psi of 2.3 on the ground smaller tires means more digging and more destruction just look at what a mess the quads do. Those guys do more damage off line than on as they sneak through trees. I am not saying anything new here but dont discount the big tires.
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