H1N1 Pandemic

[The Machinist]

An interesting video from the 1976 swine flu outbreak.

http://www.youtube.com/v/AClvfXuCvoE
http://www.youtube.com/v/ayv3Q0XIfv4

[JackstandJohnny]

great info Tom thanks.  jamey, nic vids. all these links are awesome for people who arej still waiting to make an 'informed decision'

[Spinalguy]

Why?  Because I'm not in medicine, I'm illiterate? 

On your website...I found it, thanks. 

http://www.gsk.ca/english/docs-pdf/Arepanrix_PIL_CAPA01v01.pdf

i just wanted to pimp my site.lol.
And i have a lot of well resourced and cited material from Medically peer reviewed journals, FDA and CDC.

It can be found right here:

http://www.spinalguy.com/id47.html

[MEANGREEN]

sorry to hear that. I hope she gets better quickly.

[dunl]

i just wanted to pimp my site.lol.
And i have a lot of well resourced and cited material from Medically peer reviewed journals, FDA and CDC.

It can be found right here:

http://www.spinalguy.com/id47.html

Thanks for the info Tom. 

[Jrama]

Thanks for the info

[TJ54]

being kind of cynical, and getting more in to the whole conspiracy thing. This is my theory. hahaha

There is H1N1 out there, several kids at the local high school have been confirmed, there have been a few deaths, no where near as many as the regular everyday influenza.
The mass hysteria has been created by the gov't to test the health system, can a major pandemic be controlled? if mass vaccinations are req'd, for a future issue, can the health system handle it ? how long is the average Joe public willing to stand in line for when he perceives an actual health concern. nd so on..

will I have a vaccination?  no. my daughters ?, I have let them decide, they are old enough, they both decided No. Mywife thought about it, then saw the line ups and decided not to.
If the vacine works, then the people that have been vaccinated will slow down the transmission of the disease. If it's dangerous then they will be the guinea pigs, and they will have health issues, then they will get rich from the lawsuit against the manufacturer and gov't. Or maybe (since it's halloween)  they will turn in to zombies and I can get in some target practice.

[w squared]

Or maybe (since it's halloween)  they will turn in to zombies and I can get in some target practice.

Dude! I thought I was the only one waiting for the moving targets to start appearing. 

[w squared]

The hype is about fear.

Scared people want to find out more about what is scaring them so that they can be less scared. But their source of information (the media) doesn't profit from people being less scared - they profit from fear which causes more people to want information.

So they distribute information with a spin that will induce more fear because it's in their best financial interests to do so.

If we do see another pandemic on a scale and with the severity of 1918, can you imagine the number of deaths that will be caused not be disease but by media-induced panic?

[ornamental]

The hype is about fear.

Scared people want to find out more about what is scaring them so that they can be less scared. But their source of information (the media) doesn't profit from people being less scared - they profit from fear which causes more people to want information.

So they distribute information with a spin that will induce more fear because it's in their best financial interests to do so.

If we do see another pandemic on a scale and with the severity of 1918, can you imagine the number of deaths that will be caused not be disease but by media-induced panic?

agreed ,  thanks for the info and link Tom

[Hi Lo Silver]

So now, with this mass media and government induced fear to get everyone imunized, you could spread the flu even further and faster by having a bunch of people out there being carriers and not even being aware of it. Face it, they could get exposed to it then hop right onto the LRT system and off to work they go. At least with flu type systems they would stay at home, knowing they are infested.

I've choosen not to get it because personally I think we're setting ourselves up for weaker generations down the road by not allowing our bodies to strengthen our own immune systems. I also don't work in an enclosed in your face type of atmosphere.
My wife has choosen to get it, but only if she can get it at a place of her choice, and with no line ups. She rides the LRT, and works in an office so is exposed to crammed situations all the time. No matter what direction people cough in those situations they are going to spray someone around them.

Hope everyone has a healthy, happy, safe flu season.

[Spinalguy]

Its a long one but well worth the read. Many sources at the bottom.

http://www.spinalguy.com/id58.html

[Evil-Jeep]

As an interesting note... me and my wife received a letter from Alberta Health yesterday, asking if we would be interested in participating in a long-term study with our 1 year old son and the H1N1 vaccination........ I think we will pass, I don't like the idea of giving my kids something and see what happens down the road.

[Spinalguy]

As an interesting note... me and my wife received a letter from Alberta Health yesterday, asking if we would be interested in participating in a long-term study with our 1 year old son and the H1N1 vaccination........ I think we will pass, I don't like the idea of giving my kids something and see what happens down the road.

That scares the heck out of me. No testing of this vaccine, lets give it to millions and than lets do a safety evaluation after wards.
i would love to see that letter.

[Hi Lo Silver]

They must be running a little short of ferrets and test monkeys.