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Offline jeepjones

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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2011, 06:36:16 PM »
Has anyone mentioned BDS yet? I've had really good luck with my fully adjustable upper/lower arms & bushings and the No BS guarantee can't be beat.
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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2011, 06:45:00 PM »
BDS is great, but why would I pay the same for their flex arms when I can get double JJ arms?

Are the BDS like the JKS in that they twist in the middle?
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Offline binare

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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2011, 08:35:54 PM »
The RE 2.5 springs are really long. id be surprised if your spring unseats befor your shock limits travel before hand... unless you got long travels. Could always run limiting straps or mount some spring clips. If your not stretching or changing pinion angles... youll be fine with that much lift on the stock uppers. Atleast till you triangulate the rear to ditch the trackbar.
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Offline Jrama

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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2011, 08:58:15 PM »
I have the 3" BDS kit and while it is great riding kit that is very reliable, The springs do unseat relatively easily and aren't very tall unloaded.

 RE, AEV Currie and so on have "progessive" coils, which basically have 2 rates, one to "fill the gaps" (take the weight of the jeep)as I asked earlier and then they become linear like a typical rate spring.
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Offline binare

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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2011, 09:26:18 PM »
A progressive spring wont do anything for it unseating... just need a longer spring or as I mentioned above. Progressives need to be matched to a shock as well.
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Offline yellowjeep101

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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2011, 10:28:12 PM »
BDS is the manufacturer for zone if I am not mistaken, and I am very happy with my kit, the 4" lift flexes well but is still good for the road. I'm not sure on durability yet.
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Offline jeepjones

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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2011, 09:46:52 AM »
Quote from: yellowjeep101 on October 15, 2011, 10:28:12 PM
BDS is the manufacturer for zone if I am not mistaken, and I am very happy with my kit, the 4" lift flexes well but is still good for the road. I'm not sure on durability yet.
Although BDS owns Zone, Zone is not equal to BDS.  I have the BDS arms but I have Currie Springs, not many other manufacturers can touch the Currie Springs.
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Offline JJonesee

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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2011, 10:51:35 AM »
The only coil that wont unseat as you are describing is a coil over..  The TJ/XJ/WJ 5 link has 3 times more down travel than required for the spring bucket.

Use limiting straps or longer bumpstops. 

4" uptravel is all that is needed.  If you need more than that you are going to fast.. Get a live bumpstop to go fast..

by the way - the rear has the same issue..
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Offline Jrama

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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2011, 03:51:42 PM »
After the install of the Currie arms I decided to flex my suspension out and see how everything was working itself out. It turns out the Currie arms gave me probably an additional 3 ish inches of down travel which is currently limited by my shocks...My old lowers would limit the travel when they came up against the bracket.

Is it ok to have the shocks limit travel? I intend to do something about eventually but I want to go wheeling in the  mean time...
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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2011, 04:17:35 PM »
Shocks arent designed to hold that weight... especially if it comes hard and fast. Just take it easy on em. Limiting straps are what you need or keep all four wheels on the ground.
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Offline morerpmfred

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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2011, 05:45:35 PM »
Put straps on place or you will blow put shocks. Currently waiting for shocks to come in that where overextended / over compressed doing baja style driving
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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2011, 08:23:17 PM »
Quote from: morerpmfred on October 21, 2011, 05:45:35 PM
Put straps on place or you will blow out shocks. Currently waiting for shocks to come in that where overextended / over compressed doing baja style driving

Andy is right.. And it took 7 months for Rubicon to finally send me my new monotubes that blew the seals out... They are not designed to limit your axle travel, and you will toast the seals in them if you use them for that purpose. Do it right the first time, and do it once :)


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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2011, 08:38:45 PM »
So its either buy proper shocks and have it flex right out, albeit useless flex at the coil is held in by the bump stops. This will also require the move to YJ brake lines for some extra length.

 Or do some sort of limiting strap.......with my 3" lift, Or get an anti-rock....
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Offline binare

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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2011, 08:41:48 PM »
Quote from: Jrama on October 21, 2011, 08:38:45 PM
So its either buy proper shocks and have it flex right out, albeit useless flex at the coil is held in by the bump stops. This will also require the move to YJ brake lines for some extra length.

 Or do some sort of limiting strap.......with my 3" lift, Or get an anti-rock....

Yup
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Offline JJonesee

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Re: Control Arm Recomendation / Snorkel
« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2011, 09:07:42 PM »
Quote from: Jrama on October 21, 2011, 03:51:42 PM
After the install of the Currie arms I decided to flex my suspension out and see how everything was working itself out. It turns out the Currie arms gave me probably an additional 3 ish inches of down travel which is currently limited by my shocks...My old lowers would limit the travel when they came up against the bracket.

Is it ok to have the shocks limit travel? I intend to do something about eventually but I want to go wheeling in the  mean time...

Just curious, how did you test the down travel? 

Good to hear they worked out..
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